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Re: TeraWave Satellite Communications Network

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Assuming all these companies are interested in launching their own constellations of ~10K-100K satellites into L/MEO, how many companies could actually do this before cascading collisions starts becoming a real worry?

Make the US land area ~20% larger. Randomly place 50,000 shoe boxes up and down the entire eastern seaboard. Randomly place 50,000 shoe boxes up and down the entire western seaboard. Send them in straight lines towards the other side of the country. See if any collide. Almost certainly none of them will. Edit: They will almost certainly For reference, if you placed all 50k boxes next to each other on the same beach,…

This is funnily oddly specific.

Re: TeraWave Satellite Communications Network

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It's interesting that people have a hard time visualizing this. The area in Earth's LEO is, definitionally, bigger than the Earth itself. The SEA parking garage fits 12,000 cars in it. Two of those spread over the entire planet would be an imperceptible amount of space. You could drop a pin on a map your entire life and probably never hit one.

SEA parking garage? Unfamiliar with this size reference.

Here, "SEA" = "Seattle Tacoma International Airport" in the state of Washington, USA.

Re: TeraWave Satellite Communications Network

#53

Assuming all these companies are interested in launching their own constellations of ~10K-100K satellites into L/MEO, how many companies could actually do this before cascading collisions starts becoming a real worry?

AFAIK they're in separate shells so the probability of collision is basically zero.

Re: TeraWave Satellite Communications Network

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post #53

Assuming all these companies are interested in launching their own constellations of ~10K-100K satellites into L/MEO, how many companies could actually do this before cascading collisions starts becoming a real worry?

AFAIK they're in separate shells so the probability of collision is basically zero.

Things you put in orbit at a certain elevation don't stay at that elevation forever.

Re: TeraWave Satellite Communications Network

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Interesting there is an optical networking option for end users (claims ~6TBps). Maybe a really dumb question, but how would the end user's ground station maintain connectivity during cloudy weather? Do they have cloud-penetrating lasers from the MEO satellites? Would that interfere with aircraft, astronomy tools, etc? Some short googling says they have lasers that clear a path for a data carrying beam, but that seem…

Some info from NASA optical communication page. "Even Earth’s atmosphere interferes with optical communications. Clouds and mist can interrupt a laser. A solution to this is building multiple ground stations, which are telescopes on Earth that receive infrared waves. If it’s cloudy at one station, the waves can be redirected to a different ground station. With more ground stations, the network can be more flexible du…

So it'll never work in Scotland.

Re: TeraWave Satellite Communications Network

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make the US land area ~20% larger. Randomly place 50,000 shoe boxes up and down the entire eastern seaboard. Randomly place 50,000 shoe boxes up and down the entire western seaboard. Send them in straight lines towards the other side of the country. See if any collide. Almost certainly none of them will. Edit: They will almost certainly For reference, if you placed all 50k boxes next to each other on the same beach,…

This is funnily oddly specific.

Spoken like someone who's never placed a shoebox on a seaboard

Re: TeraWave Satellite Communications Network

#58

Assuming all these companies are interested in launching their own constellations of ~10K-100K satellites into L/MEO, how many companies could actually do this before cascading collisions starts becoming a real worry?

Make the US land area ~20% larger. Randomly place 50,000 shoe boxes up and down the entire eastern seaboard. Randomly place 50,000 shoe boxes up and down the entire western seaboard. Send them in straight lines towards the other side of the country. See if any collide. Almost certainly none of them will. Edit: They will almost certainly For reference, if you placed all 50k boxes next to each other on the same beach,…

By my calculations there will be an average of 500 collisions, no? Each shoebox has an effective width of 2 feet, and with 50k of them that's about 1% density. With 50k in the other direction, and about a 1% collision rate, that's 500 collisions.

Re: TeraWave Satellite Communications Network

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some info from NASA optical communication page. "Even Earth’s atmosphere interferes with optical communications. Clouds and mist can interrupt a laser. A solution to this is building multiple ground stations, which are telescopes on Earth that receive infrared waves. If it’s cloudy at one station, the waves can be redirected to a different ground station. With more ground stations, the network can be more flexible du…

So it'll never work in Scotland.

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