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Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by bbg2401 »

tptacek wrote: post #16
merelysounds wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pricing page if anyone else is curious: https://railsui.com/pricing "Solo" plan is $299/year (1 seat), "Team" plan is $799/year (30 seats), larger plans are "inquire now".

I'm not saying this product is good or bad, because I have no idea, but this is priced too low for it's claimed value prop, not too high. 25% of a decked out developer Macbook for something that sets the look and feel of an app and forestalls an entire designer hire is an unseriously low price. I'm not saying the product is unserious; just that developers are generally unserious about pricing.

Pricing per seat makes little sense for a component library. It forces every party involved in building an application to acquire a license, not just a designer who might otherwise have been hired once to provide the assets. Seat-based pricing suits tools people daily drive (Figma, Slack), whereas asset libraries are better priced by what you ship with them.

A more natural unit for pricing would be per domain, application, environment, or similar.

That said, I'm aware several UI frameworks have moved toward seat-based licensing recently, so it must be working for them in some sense.

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by graypegg »

jmuguy wrote: post #49

This definitely does fill a gap that Rails has. I love using it but man I can't make a nice looking front end to save my life. We've used Tailwind UI a ton but thats kind of a foot gun because you end up slightly tweaking classes all over the place if you're not disciplined.

I've fiddled with Open Props [0] a bit lately, seems like a nice middle ground! Colours/fonts/spacing/etc that look nice together are there, but it's still up to you to use them. (And you're still writing CSS, so might be a deal breaker if that's the part of tailwind you like... but CSS is rather nice nowadays.)

[0] https://open-props.style/

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by zdragnar »

mattkevan wrote: post #36
fogzen wrote: post #22

I wish I could use this – unfortunately UI frameworks are a political problem at every company I've worked at. The designers feel undermined or threatened by it, and product owners want to dictate design. Despite the massive productivity benefits of a UI framework, I've never been able to convince stakeholders to actually adopt one.

Hey I’m a designer and I love UI frameworks. Why design and build something from scratch if someone’s already doing it for you? Unless there’s a very specific business case that requires a custom UI it’s not worth the hassle. I want to be delivering value for the business and for users, not maintaining a UI library. One place I worked at had built an entire responsive CSS framework, which was hard to use and took a l…

The last time I heard this from a designer, the designs we got constantly violated the UI framework in ways that required deep customization.

I'd love to have a designer that started with a style guide and then actually stuck with it. Writing CSS isn't hard, and sticking with a known set of rules makes it even easier. But then this one component needs a slightly different font size that doesn't match up to any of the established typography rules, and this other spot needs unique padding, and and and I end up having to waste so much time looking for these little surprises.

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by [deleted] »

redfloatplane wrote: post #19

I used this about a year ago when I went through a short Rails phase. I was a bit surprised not to see more Rails-specific UI libraries considering how batteries-included the rest of the framework is, and at the time I didn't really 'get' tailwind. I'm not in a Rails phase anymore, but nice work on the library!

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Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by maipen »

justalever wrote: post #30
agentifysh wrote: post #29

im always surprised that Rails is still relevant i havent used it since 2006 opting for php and django i might give it another shot, any reason you like this more than django or other frameworks

In general, I like it for the speed. I can build an MVP in less than a weekend using Rails, Rails UI, and some AI for some one-shot copy and random repetitive stuff. Under the hood, I like the Rails conventions and Ruby's beauty.

I guess it depends if you are used to Rails.

Personally, I don't see the point in ever touching rails since bunjs gives me everything I need while being faster and typescript compatible.

Ruby does look pretty, but that's it.

Is there any benefit that would justify giving it a try if you already use typescript?

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by KenSF »

khoury wrote: post #53

Rails is best as an API only, that's where it shines for me like no other tool.

You’re overlooking Hotwire, PWA as a first-class concept, and Hotwire Native — the easiest way to take a functioning web app and migrate it to native mobile apps on both iOS and Android. I’d encourage you to take a fresh look at the new Rails technologies introduced in Rails 7 and Rails 8. You may find that the current Rails stack is the best fit for most, though not all, cloud applications that need a web client along with iOS and Android clients.

Re: Show HN: Rails UI

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Post by KenSF »

agentifysh wrote: post #29

im always surprised that Rails is still relevant i havent used it since 2006 opting for php and django i might give it another shot, any reason you like this more than django or other frameworks

Please check out my response to another comment on this thread as so much has changed especially recently. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46712477
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