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LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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I really wish more people wanted screens that looked as good as their cellphone. Bright, sharp text, great color. We've had the great Apple Studio Display for years now, it's about time others came to fix some of it's short-comings like 27" size, 60hz and lack of HDMI ports for use with other systems. So many of us have to stare at a screen for hours every day and having one that reduces strain on my eyes is well wor…

I don't think people care all that much about phones. It's just that phones are power-constrained, so manufacturers wanted to move to OLEDs to save on backlight; and because the displays are small, the tech was easier to roll out there than on 6k 32-inch monitors. But premium displays exist. IPS displays on higher-end laptops, such as ThinkPads, are great - we're talking stuff like 14" 3840x2160, 100% Adobe RGB. The…

Outside Thinkpads IPS is basically the cheap/default option on laptops, with OLED being the premium choice. With Thinkpads TN without sRGB coverage is the cheap/default option, with IPS being the premium choice.

Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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6k 16:10 32” oled/microRGB with true rgb subpixels, please.

Though the wait seems 5 more years, at the least. Too many pixels and no tolerance for dead ones.

If you — like most of us — care only about pixel density for that sweet crisp code, Chinese 6k XDR knock-off by the name of Kuycon G32P got you covered for a few years now and with a fraction of a price ($1700)

Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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This is such a cool idea. Text was the one thing I was concerned about with perhaps color correctness/accuracy/calibration options secondarily, but I'm sure they've got that down. But hearing that the text looks good is the biggest thing. I may actually consider going down this road.

I did this for a bit with a Q900R, a 65in 8k TV - a upside or downside depending on the time of year and climate is that it uses a lot of power and generates a good amount of heat. Here’s a review of the series - https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/q900-q900r-8k-qled One interesting thing is that it’s been firmware updated to support hdmi 2.1 on all hdmi ports now.

Nice article. I'd add that I have 8k@60 supported when using RX 6600XT and Arc A770.

Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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We do, but many of us also want to play a game on occasion and GPUs can barely just handle 4k these days, let alone 6k+.

Anecdata but I played games at 4K on a 4GHz Haswell (2013) + 1080 Ti (2017). Definitely faster at 2K but 4K was servicable. It's probably less true now that I'm 1+ years away from the hardware, but 4K gameplay is surprisingly accessible for modest hardware IMO.

I currently have a 4k monitor (+nv4070-super) and it does handle some games fine at 4k but for others I need to use 2k w/ upscaling. Depends on the game.

Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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I had to service the UltraFine 5K twice before realizing that using it to power the Macbook was killing it (seems power delivery overload). Hooking up the Mac to its own power fixed it. Anyone else experience this?

I’ve been using one for over five years, exclusively with MacBooks which were always powered by the display. I haven’t had any issues with mine. (Except maybe once last year, when it wouldn’t turn on. I had to unplug the display from the power and plug it back in.)

Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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Short story: not worth it because LG has terrible quality control. I bought two copies and experienced bad light uniformity / banding with both, color repro wasn't great, and the matte finish was a bit fuzzy. Many others have had this issue.

Here are photos of what I saw:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd....

I wound up buying the Asus ProArt 32" and out of the box it had good light uniformity, a better matte finish, better color accuracy (using the M-Model P3 profile), and was much cheaper.

Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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I had to service the UltraFine 5K twice before realizing that using it to power the Macbook was killing it (seems power delivery overload). Hooking up the Mac to its own power fixed it. Anyone else experience this?

The thing I heard was always killing them was the ports coming loose from people plugging and unplugging things all the time.

Could it have been that you were plugging and unplugging the MacBook?

Obviously that should totally work. I don’t know what I heard is correct, but I got the impression if you plugged a Mac in and just left it there it would be fine.

Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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For a long time, the only very high (>200) DPI monitors on the market were Apple's first-party ones and the LG UltraFine, the former being stupidly overpriced and the latter having, as you say, reliability horror stories. I assume the dearth of other options was because macOS doesn't do fractional scaling, only 2x, so only Apple users really needed 5K-at-27" or 6K-at-32" whereas Windows/Linux users can be ok with 150…

> I assume the dearth of other options was because macOS doesn't do fractional scaling Except it does? I have a 14" MBP with a 3024x1964 display. By default, it uses a doubling for an effective 1512x982, but I can also select 1800x1169, 1352x878, 1147x745, or 1024x665. So it certainly does have fractional scaling options. If you connect a 4k 2160p monitor, you can go down or up from the default 1080p doubling ( https…

macOS fakes fractional scaling by rendering a larger image at 2x and then downscaling it. For example, 1800x1169 renders a 3600x2338 at 2x scaling, then resizes the rendered image to 3024x1964. This is slower and looks worse than true fractional scaling would be, but makes the implementation a lot easier and in practice it’s hard to tell the difference. It’d look pretty awful if the native ppi wasn’t so high.

Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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I really wish more people wanted screens that looked as good as their cellphone. Bright, sharp text, great color. We've had the great Apple Studio Display for years now, it's about time others came to fix some of it's short-comings like 27" size, 60hz and lack of HDMI ports for use with other systems. So many of us have to stare at a screen for hours every day and having one that reduces strain on my eyes is well wor…

Is there a shortlist of top of the line utilitarian monitors that you can just buy, without researching or being some niche gamer?* Something similar to LG G-series TV's. Seems like Apple Studio, Dell UltraSharp are on that list. Any others? *Struggling for words, but I'm looking more for the expedient solution rather than the "craft beer" or "audiophile" solution.

Many monitors use the same panels with only firmware differences. The panel technology IPS/VA/OLED/WOLED is what you shop for.

If you're a gamer QDOLED is best. If you do office work just get whatever is high resolution and makes text sharp.

Re: LG UltraFine Evo 6K 32-inch Monitor Review

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I'm sitting behind one of these right now, got it back at the start of last November, attached to an Ergotron monitor arm. It's worth noting that there are a number of screens coming out that seem to be using roughly this panel but with different price points and feature mixes. MacRumors (and no doubt others) maintaining a nice little dedicated thread [0] on 6K screens with info in an easily digestible form. And so on a meta-note, the most exciting thing to me is simply that we're finally seeing a big leap forward all at once in the screen fundamentals (resolution, refresh, color) after a long and frustrating (to me anyway) period of stagnation. Apple did the first iMac 5K iirc in 2014, twelve(!) years ago. And I thought at the time it wouldn't be long before we had a range of higher res options, but instead Apple eventually did a standalone, then long after LG did a release, there were a couple of rando ones from Dell that got dropped... and that was it. Now we've got lots of 5K and 6K options, 8K ones are coming, currently it's 60Hz but CES has seen higher refresh announced, next few years are looking good. While the LG doesn't take advantage of TB5's full bandwidth, but having 120 Gbps on tap means that we also have plenty of headroom for everything, high resolution, high refresh, and higher color bit depths without having to compromise. So that's all pretty nice.

As far as this one specifically, on a physical level it's perfectly decent. I actually like that unlike the previous LG and most screens it seems nowadays, there is no camera at all. The only real irritation about it is the ginormous power brick it has, which is bigger and heavier then a Mac Mini, and on top of that has a fixed cord (a SHORT fixed cord) which I hate. I prefer having power be integrated and just using a normal power cable, but if nothing else it's irritating that even on high end electronics OEMs still don't use GaN and shrink everything a lot.

I'm no longer doing significant graphics work so haven't invested in updating color calibration hardware, none of my old stuff still works with current higher bit-depth/HDR etc screens. I'm mostly doing coding, CAD, light non-print graphics, etc. So my impressions are purely subjective. List in no particular order vs the older 5k and other screens I've used:

• Whether good luck or just (not) bad luck, quality control on the physical parts hasn't been an issue. There isn't any banding, no dead pixels, light/dark patches or the like that other comments report.

• It claims to be cutting edge in terms of IPS displays, "nano ips black" blah blah, but there isn't any significant noticeable contrast increase vs the old. It's definitely excellent for a standard IPS display but OLED/µLED it is not (though conversely I have no concerns about it being on hours a day display static GUI elements).

• Matte instead of glossy doesn't really do anything for me since I'd reoriented my office space long ago due to everything being glossy. There is a slight shimmer if I focus that bothered me a little more than new but I don't notice after a few months. I don't think it's quite as good as Apple's treatment, but for myself I'd probably just go back to glossy given the choice. YMMV based on lighting.

• It claims to be cutting edge in terms of IPS displays, "nano ips black" blah blah, but there isn't any significant noticeable contrast increase vs the old. It's solid for a standard IPS display but OLED/µLED it is not (though conversely I have no concerns about it being on hours a day display static GUI elements).

• Software situation is mediocre. I have not been able to get LG's software to perform a firmware update, it fails with odd error messages, so I haven't been able to experiment at all with some of the modes that it was advertised with. Their software wants a lot of invasive permissions and is wonky. LG support has not been helpful. Newer screens will presumably come with current firmware out of the box at some point but this was disappointing.

• Also on software, at least under macOS 15 the HDR story seems a bit odd. It's the first desktop Mac screen I've used that has an HDR toggle in the System Settings, and enabling it does make HEIC photos and a few other workflows I surveyed work more like an MBP screen. However it also causes the Mac GUI colors to get all washed out and strange, there isn't compensation there with just the toggle. The may be improved in macOS 26, or might be something one of the Studio modes will help with if I can ever get access to them, but it isn't plug-and-play here.

• If I do toggle it on, having the HDR support with true 10-bit is noticeable in working with high bit depth photos, including everything from any iPhone in awhile.

• Having TB bandwidth out of the hub doesn't matter much to me but does work and means the TB5 input isn't totally wasted. Sometimes convenient to have an extra port. This would probably be of more value for someone using a notebook which is clearly the intended use-case.

Anyway, it's fine, I needed a new screen and it gives me a noticeably improved amount of screen space for my aging eyes but is still on the right size (for me) of not being so big that I'd need a curve though it's right on the edge. I've run 2 and 3-screen (1920x1200) primary use (ie, all for regular system use vs having a secondary proof/video screen like I do now) setups in the past, and there are pluses and minuses particularly with having one be vertically oriented, but it's not bad to have so much space all as a single unified thing.

I think most people would be better off waiting, this was clearly not all baked yet when I got it and there is plenty of competition here or coming, but I'm not returning it either. I'm looking forward to hopefully finally seeing screens that will arguably be "done", basically hitting the limits of human visual acuity in all respects (or at least to the many-9s level of diminishing returns) in the next few years. And I'm also kind of curious longer term still about what effects that might have on the industry, for my entire life progress in video, unlike audio, has been constant and there was always clearly more to do. Once resolution and refresh stops and monitors are "finished" I wonder if that might be interesting for media in terms of reducing the technical rat race?

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0: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-complete-list-of-6k...

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