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You have three minutes to escape the perpetual underclass

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Re: You have three minutes to escape the perpetual underclass

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Post by saidnooneever »

HotGarbage wrote: post #21
vaughands wrote: post #8

This post seems to be haphazardly proposing that big tech will inevitably make everyone's lives miserable. And by working for them, you are enabling this. It offers no constructive alternative and the author (yes, I know who he is) seems to have no issue with Google hosting their email. It's hard to take this too seriously (even if there is some legitimate worry here)

Big tech is making everyone's life miserable: social media, advertising, surveillance. By working for them you are enabling this.

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Re: You have three minutes to escape the perpetual underclass

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Post by petesergeant »

raverbashing wrote: post #41

Sometimes people just need to touch (literal) grass No gpt18Pro won't cost $1Bi dollars. The buck (or the bubble) will stop somewhere. I'd be more worried for the people making trades run 1ms faster, they literally create no value to the world that is not something their own peers believe it There are billions of people not knowing and not caring about what is chatgpt and while it might hit them hard, humans are more…

> The buck (or the bubble) will stop somewhere.

Why?

Re: You have three minutes to escape the perpetual underclass

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Post by GardenLetter27 »

fnoef wrote: post #7
d1sxeyes wrote: post #3

Hard to take seriously from a guy who has Facebook, Google, and Twitter on his CV.

I noticed an interesting pattern. People who “made it” usually by working high paying jobs for the neofeudal lords, suddenly gain moral compass and tell the rest of us to not work for said neofeudal lords, because “money is not important”, and apparently you can buy a place to live or food to feed your family simply by having principles.

Money is less important once you've already paid off your mansion.

Re: You have three minutes to escape the perpetual underclass

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Post by oefrha »

fnoef wrote: post #7
d1sxeyes wrote: post #3

Hard to take seriously from a guy who has Facebook, Google, and Twitter on his CV.

I noticed an interesting pattern. People who “made it” usually by working high paying jobs for the neofeudal lords, suddenly gain moral compass and tell the rest of us to not work for said neofeudal lords, because “money is not important”, and apparently you can buy a place to live or food to feed your family simply by having principles.

I also chuckled when an ex-Facebook employee whose blog is popular on HN lectured us on "web page annoyances that I don't inflict on you here".

Re: You have three minutes to escape the perpetual underclass

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Post by pizlonator »

Let's say that somehow we end up in a world where capital is the only thing separating one set of humans from the other, and that separation is large, and the overwhelming majority of humans are in the underclass.

Such situations usually correct themselves violently.

Re: You have three minutes to escape the perpetual underclass

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Post by ben_w »

d1sxeyes wrote: post #3

Hard to take seriously from a guy who has Facebook, Google, and Twitter on his CV.

He worked for Facebook for less than a year back when Zuck had just been Time Person of the Year, Google before it dropped the "Don't be evil" motto and code of conduct, that really only leaves his time as Twitter as a "what were you thinking?" because it was after Musk bought it… compensated for somewhat by him leaving it quickly.

Even with the poor judgement to join Musk's twitter at all, he left a few weeks after joining, soon after ChatGPT was released. Before ChatGPT, the idea that the singularity was anywhere near was utterly fringe: tech version of all the new-age stuff, I think Charlie Stross described it as "Rapture for atheists" or something like that.

It's now… well, a lot of people with a lot of power are trying to *make it* be the singularity. I still don't think this is "it", despite how useful I find what we do have, but of the top 10 valued companies by market cap in Q4 last year, 9 are chasing it, the money is definitely interested, in a way it just wasn't when he worked at those places.

Re: You have three minutes to escape the perpetual underclass

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Post by pharrington »

GardenLetter27 wrote: post #39

I couldn't disagree more. Throughout history, higher productivity leads to a higher quality of life for everyone. Yes, the transition can be painful and some people will lose out and face hard career changes. But overall, the multiplicative power of investment only increases, helping to make everything cheaper, and everyone richer. People focus too much on their own small part of experience - like Claude Code replaci…

You're wrong. Sharing the fruits of labor and greater social cohesion are what lead to greater quality of life. Greater productivity leads to increased wealth among the owning class, but historically that wealth only reached the masses after hard, usually physically violent, conflict between the haves and havenots.

Re: You have three minutes to escape the perpetual underclass

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Post by imiric »

vaughands wrote: post #8

This post seems to be haphazardly proposing that big tech will inevitably make everyone's lives miserable. And by working for them, you are enabling this. It offers no constructive alternative and the author (yes, I know who he is) seems to have no issue with Google hosting their email. It's hard to take this too seriously (even if there is some legitimate worry here)

> big tech will inevitably make everyone's lives miserable

"Will"? If you don't see how this is happening today, you're either a part of the problem, or blissfully ignorant.

> It offers no constructive alternative

WDYM? The article clearly suggests that people should stop working for these companies.

Besides, why must every criticism propose a solution? The problem should be fixed by those who created it.

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