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Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haven't tested this, but try: System Settings > General > Language & Region > Live Text "Select text in images to copy or take action."

I understand people don't like this kind of OCR stuff for privacy reasons, but selecting text from images is probably the most useful feature added to iOS in the last ~5 years for me.

It could be even more useful if performed on demand, e.g. long-press on photo region with text.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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I ran into this yesterday. My entire machine was running slow. I checked Activity Monitor and it was mediaanalysisd running at 100% for about an hour. i couldn't kill it as it would just restart. A search said I was S.O.L. unless I disabled SIP. (can't, it's a work laptop) Further, Spotlight is completely broken in Tahoe. I have all categories off in System Preferences except Apps because it's the only thing I use or…

> mediaanalysisd

Incredibly, the current mitigation is a cronjob to SIGSTOP it once per minute. https://github.com/jac-jim/stop-mediaanalysisd

Yearslong history of this issue, with it getting harder and harder. https://gist.github.com/huksley/564be2c903312bcee7dffe415d12...

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

I use Quicksilver and I have Spotlight disabled.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #35
post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

Spotlight is much improved in Tahoe - faster and with better results.

Many people are experiencing the opposite.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

Store your files in a file structure that makes sense so you know where things are? I have never used Spotlight to find a file because I put files in sensible places.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #47

As hinted with the Finder comment, "Spotlight" is behind much more than the command-space search box. I don't know what the Siri services might do other than Siri itself, but wouldn't shock me if they were involved in things like Shortcuts and Control Center widgets. I understand thinking things you don't use are simply a "waste of CPU and storage space", but this reads like the kind of posts I used to see in the Win…

Howard Oakley has made more effort to understand what macOS is doing (and blog about it) than practically anyone else ever.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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With nobody at Apple handling the engineering problem of implementing user requests, we're stuck with what we got. So I highly recommend App Tamer by St. Clair Software (no affiliation), which lets you set how much CPU percentage each process can use:

https://stclairsoft.com/AppTamer/index.html

It does cost $14.95 USD, but it's given me my computer back for years now. I have Spotlight Indexer set to 10%, although I'm using an old version of macOS and don't know if that's mdutil now or if Apple has outsmarted its throttling. I also set web browsers to 10% when they're in the background. And you can always message the developer with feature requests.

A bit of a rant: I honestly feel that we've done process scheduling wrong in most OSs and apps. It should have always been up to the user, along with granting permissions as needed. And I can't believe that no web browser has implemented turning JavaScript off after perhaps 10 seconds for example, so that we can have as many tabs open as we want. Instead we've let the technology order us what to do. It's all just so wrong. But the barriers to entry for writing a new browser are so high that only large organizations can do it, and they choose not to, so help isn't coming. Although I think with the arrival of AI, we're going to start seeing real software again that makes a mockery of the status quo and hopefully eats its lunch.

Re: Can You Disable Spotlight and Siri in macOS Tahoe?

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post #7

I understand the desire to disable Siri system-wide, but Spotlight? How else are you going to find your files? I'm often annoyed how slow/unreliable Spotlight is, especially in Mail, but what's the alternative here?

Store your files in a file structure that makes sense so you know where things are? I have never used Spotlight to find a file because I put files in sensible places.

I use Spotlight all the time to search for the contents of files. I don't memorize the contents and names of every file on my system, that's what my computer is for.
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