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Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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post #36

What about Jack Dorsey's Bitchat . Could be useful in india (especially Kashmir) where govt shut down internet during protest

I'm not sure so many Iranians have $1000 iphones to use hipster bitchat; cheaper android clients are more the norm.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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post #37

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Isn't stopping abuses of the power of the military the reason for the 2nd Amendment? Why don't the people in Minnesota go open carry and let ICE agents think twice before drawing their weapons on people?

>Isn't stopping abuses of the power of the military the reason for the 2nd Amendment? It was for establishing well ordered militias. They could be used to help defend the country in a time of war. > Why don't the people in Minnesota go open carry and let ICE agents think twice before drawing their weapons on people? Most of the demonstrators believe that "the pen is mightier than the sword", and non-violence is the w…

What's the definition of a well-ordered militia? A bunch of farmers that go shooting together?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Meshtastic is both extremely range limited and trivial to DDOS. It's a fun toy protocol but it's not resistant to nation state disruption at all.

It's only line-of-sight, but isn't the range 10s-100s of kilometres in open areas? Some repeaters on hills/mountains etc. could connect large areas potentially.

It's trivially jammable, as evidenced by the network not working at popular events such as Defcon with default firmware settings.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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post #10

I'm curious about the iOS situation

Unfortunately, due to safety reasons Apple cannot allow you to leave the walled garden, it is only in your own best interest. All communication services on our iOS devices require at least one US-based NSA-integrated middleman. /s

Seriously though, given all the NSA has done: Could the NSA launch a "beach head" inside Apple?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Isn't stopping abuses of the power of the military the reason for the 2nd Amendment? It was for establishing well ordered militias. They could be used to help defend the country in a time of war. > Why don't the people in Minnesota go open carry and let ICE agents think twice before drawing their weapons on people? Most of the demonstrators believe that "the pen is mightier than the sword", and non-violence is the w…

What's the definition of a well-ordered militia? A bunch of farmers that go shooting together?

A bunch of farmers that go shooting drunk. /s

Seriously though, everyone back in the 1700s realized that all Americans were American. I'm not sure that's true any more.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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post #36

What about Jack Dorsey's Bitchat . Could be useful in india (especially Kashmir) where govt shut down internet during protest

Bitchat seems like a good solution. It will be even more effective once Bluetooth 6 becomes more widespread in a year or two.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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post #36

What about Jack Dorsey's Bitchat . Could be useful in india (especially Kashmir) where govt shut down internet during protest

Dude.

Back in 2014 when briar or something similar came up, we found the app.needed to signed in "online" first then it could be used offline.

There were apps used in 2019 but it wasnt enough.

The government "banned" 14 appps including element "because use by terrorists" meant anyone using element after the ban got a loud knock on the door by the stazi with 100-300 personnel, fully ready to engage in battle.

Have seen horror stories.

They used isp data to locate homes where element was used and then staked them out and made a big show of attacking at night.

Then the usual. Phones are confiscated and literal spyware installed.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

#59
I have Briar, but never had anyone to use it with. As an emergency text messaging tool, I guess it can be used, but not for any media transfer. The picture quality is abysmal. I also tried using it to sync some notes across devices, looking for a good use case of it all, but there was also some issue there. I believe once you created a "forum" you can no longer delete them. The desktop app is very slow. Sometimes had to wait for 10-20s for it to do something. I guess it is really just an emergency/offline text message tool.
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