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Minor says ICE took his iPhone, later found in used-electronics vending machine
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Re: Minor says ICE took his iPhone, later found in used-electronics vending machine
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
to counter 2) ICE is not police. There is nothing differentiating them from armed thugs. No bages, no ID's, no faces etc. There is no reason to do ANYTHING these people ask. to counter 3) I would say there's a clear chick and egg here. ICE started behaving in a way that is now being met with an equal and opposite reactionary force. If ICE can stop acting like some SS wannabe force, the vigilantism goes away as well.…
So your solution for dealing with armed thugs is NOT to comply with their demands?
Yes, that’s the duty of every red-blooded American
Re: Minor says ICE took his iPhone, later found in used-electronics vending machine
#53The disturbing part isn’t that bad encounters happen — it’s that these techniques are officially banned, yet keep showing up across unrelated cases. When policy and on-the-ground behavior diverge this consistently, it stops looking like individual misconduct and starts looking like a systems problem.
In Minneapolis there are videos of ICE blocking off residential neighborhoods and going door, demanding ID of residents. https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qbawlr/minnea... These aren’t bad apples, ICE operates without regard to the law by design.
In the Netherlands we call that a razzia. Very popular in the early 40s.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
The over reach and application are owned by one. eg: ICE has no authority wrt traffic stops and the kind of actions taken recently. Door to door ID dragnets are not part of the written laws, etc.
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Bruh, what? Why in the world is Obama relevant? Why aren't you also condemning Harry S. Truman, while you're at it?
That's a wild non sequitur in the the middle of your false equivalency. If you can't see the problems right in front of your eyes, and are still complaining about Obama, then you're lost.
Re: Minor says ICE took his iPhone, later found in used-electronics vending machine
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
ICE isn't police.
ICE is federal law enforcement. You are not allowed to interfere in their operations when they are lawfully engaging in immigration enforcement activity. If you do, you will get arrested. This is just how the law works. They can't go after you for impeding traffic, but if you are interfering in their operations by impeding traffic, they can arrest you.
So just to be clear: You support ICE going door to door, breaking into American citizen's homes and asking them papers please, right? If said American tells them to fuck off they're interfering with federal law enforcement and do so under penalty of death?