I'd be more concerned when AI companies decide its time to make a profit. The more effective its supposed to be, the more they can justify charging for it.
Why we don’t use AI
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. This has been an interesting cultural shift, especially with “the kids”. I’ve had at least a few people passionately tell me that using (non-generative, non-LLM) AI to assist with social network content moderation, is unethical, because it takes away jobs from people. Mind you, these are jobs in which people are exposed to CSAM, gore, etc. A fact that does not dissuade people of this view. There are certainly s…
They took our jerbs is a perfectly valid argument for people which face ruin without a jerb. Capitalism is not prepared nor willing to retrain people, drastically lower the workweek, or bring about a UBI sourced from the value of the commons. So indeed, if the promises of AI hold true, a catastrophe is incoming. Fortunately for us, the promises of AI CEOs are unlikely to be true.
This is the bit I get frustrated by - the need for jerbs at all.
If we manage to replace all the workers with AI - that's awesome! We will obviously have to work out a system for everyone to get shelter, and food, and so on. But that post-scarcity utopia of everyone being able to do whatever they want with their time and not have to work, that's the goal, right? That's where we want to be.
Jerbs are an interim nightmare that we have had to do to get from subsistence agriculture to post-scarcity abundance, they're not some intrinsic part of human existence.
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#53I struggle with the "good guys vs bad guys" framing here. Is a small indie dev "dodgy" if they use AI to unblock a tricky C# problem so they can actually finish their game? Yarn Spinner seems to conflate "Enterprise Scale Replacement" (firing 500 support staff) with "assistive tooling" (a solo dev using GenAI for texture variants). By drawing such a hard line, they might be signaling virtue to their base, but they ar…
It really doesn't matter though.
> Is a small indie dev "dodgy" if they use AI to unblock a tricky C# problem so they can actually finish their game?
No amount of framing (unless written into law) would stop small indie devs from doing this. AI is just too efficient, making too much sense economically. People who are willing to starve for their ideology is always the minority.
Even artisans who build hand-made wooden furniture use power tools today. The tools that make economical sense will prevail one way or another.
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#54I wonder if the title of this post will someday be a certification?
I'm pretty certain it will be. It's a society thing. Much in the same way you have "artisan" items or "organic" food, a similar thing seems like an obvious development of ai in society. Very easy to apply a value and morality system to something like the implications of ai.
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#55Yet another “genuinely nobody cares” take from yet another service or product I’ve never heard of before this post.
I’m not sure what the authors are looking for, a pat on the back? Good boy points? Reddit updoots? To feel like a real 1337 h4xx0r dev?
Nobody cares about this stance and I feel like I see it daily now. People do care about the quality and usefulness of your product and what you’re doing to continue to improve it.
It has the same energy as when a dude orders “black coffee” despite hating the taste to look more badass.
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#56One could probably think of dozens of reasonable arguments for avoiding LLM use, but this one is awful. If LLMs actually are able to get more work done with fewer people aka "firing people" that would be wonderful for humankind. If you disagree and like getting less work done with more people, you are welcome to forego tractors, dishwashers, the steam engine, and all the rest.
Does this argument still work if LLMs end up increasing unemployment and making it a lot harder for graduates to find good jobs? Who is it good for in that case, the shareholders? It's nice if humans can always create more jobs, but that's not what the tech bros are promising investors. They're making claims about how AI is going to seriously reduce the need for human labor. Programming, writing and art are just the…
Because consumer demand is infinite, the only way to majorly and permanently increase unemployment is to completely automate all labor or maybe almost all. We have been automating away jobs for hundreds of years and unemployment is still ~4%
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I struggle with the "good guys vs bad guys" framing here. It's because generative AI has become part of the "culture wars" and is therefore black and white to lots of people.
Seeing a lot of this, that any use of LLMs is immediately condemned. I think it's self-defeating, but virtue signallers gonna virtue signal.
That’s because there is no nuance to how AI was built/trained and how it operates. As someone else put it: It is a rude technology that deserves a rude response
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seeing a lot of this, that any use of LLMs is immediately condemned. I think it's self-defeating, but virtue signallers gonna virtue signal.
That’s because there is no nuance to how AI was built/trained and how it operates. As someone else put it: It is a rude technology that deserves a rude response
Exhibit A.
Re: Why we don’t use AI
#60I struggle with the "good guys vs bad guys" framing here. Is a small indie dev "dodgy" if they use AI to unblock a tricky C# problem so they can actually finish their game? Yarn Spinner seems to conflate "Enterprise Scale Replacement" (firing 500 support staff) with "assistive tooling" (a solo dev using GenAI for texture variants). By drawing such a hard line, they might be signaling virtue to their base, but they ar…
> Is a small indie dev "dodgy" if they use AI to unblock a tricky C# problem so they can actually finish their game?
What about learning the tools you use everyday by yourself?