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Vibecoding is the feeling of coding. It's the same feeling people have when they say they can see the picture in their head, but can't quite draw it.
In other words the blind leading the blind
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So then why did MIDI not replace musicians and conductors many decades ago? Why do we even bother thinking in terms of sheet music, or programs in terms of code?
It kinda sorta did. Decades ago, all music was played by live players. Today, there are lots of albums, lots of background music on television, radio, etc., that is made mostly or entirely using MIDI-controlled virtual instruments. No longer do you need to book an actual chamber orchestra for a little 30-second spot on some cooking show. So those musicians are no longer getting booked for that bit of music. Instead,…
Will there be new software like that? Maybe, but you'll never hear about it. Not only because it's throwaway code, but because the best interface is probably no code at all. The chatbot will instead spin up a VM behind the scenes and never even show the code it generated unless you dig for it.
I saw someone use the term "orchestration", which seems to be the word for building the software using LLM tools. It made me think of the conductor, seemingly the most skillless job in the orchestra. All you do is wave the batton, no need to ever play a instrument. If LLMs are doing the hard part (writing code) then we can be the conductor waving the batton. But of course the visuals are misleading. Being conductor d…
Vibecoding is the feeling of coding. It's the same feeling people have when they say they can see the picture in their head, but can't quite draw it.
But there are many ways to apply LLMs in the development flow.
Only specifying features broadly is like a product manager might is definitely highly luck dependent wrt how buggy it will turn out.
But understanding the feature and determining what needs to be done broadly, then ask the LLM to do so and verify after if the resulting change makes sense according to your mental model of the software is definitely not that.
Also, I disagree with your implied message. I frequently struggle to articulate solutions even if I know how they'd work
This should apply to art even more, because art is strongly supported by emotions - and people may know the feeling of the emotion (of the image), but not have an explicit framework for it yet
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Vibecoding is the feeling of coding. It's the same feeling people have when they say they can see the picture in their head, but can't quite draw it.
If you're talking about the original vibe coding, sure. But there are many ways to apply LLMs in the development flow. Only specifying features broadly is like a product manager might is definitely highly luck dependent wrt how buggy it will turn out. But understanding the feature and determining what needs to be done broadly, then ask the LLM to do so and verify after if the resulting change makes sense according to…
The OG definition of Vibe Coding is just playing a client who wants $thing, but doesn't need how to write a line of code.
I saw someone use the term "orchestration", which seems to be the word for building the software using LLM tools. It made me think of the conductor, seemingly the most skillless job in the orchestra. All you do is wave the batton, no need to ever play a instrument. If LLMs are doing the hard part (writing code) then we can be the conductor waving the batton. But of course the visuals are misleading. Being conductor d…
But also the market for conductors is very small. There are 100 musicians but only one conductor in an orchestra. So what you wrote does not bode well for the profession.
This post is AI generated slop.
> The barrier to entry has effectively collapsed. Google, Apple, Meta, X, Bluesky, Shopify, Stripe and all the big software companies must be really shaking in their boots for disruption against the army of vibe coders. /s (They are actually laughing at all of them)
I saw someone use the term "orchestration", which seems to be the word for building the software using LLM tools. It made me think of the conductor, seemingly the most skillless job in the orchestra. All you do is wave the batton, no need to ever play a instrument. If LLMs are doing the hard part (writing code) then we can be the conductor waving the batton. But of course the visuals are misleading. Being conductor d…
I agree with the gist of your comment, but I have to push back on the above statement. Conducting an orchestra is a different skillset than playing virtuoso violin, but it is not more difficult or more important. Its just different. The same applies to any leadership or management position. A very skilled orchestra can in even hide the fact that the conductor is a bit crap. Same with a company or sports team performing so well that they overcome the weaknesses of a lackluster manager. Even though they will still often get the credit.
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> LLMs have made the musician part automated. They'll play whatever you want I like your metaphor even as someone who can be a bit skeptical of the overly broad promises of LLM’s/AI. But I do think this statement is too generous. It implies way too much actual musical ability. It also means that everything I can imagine musically is possible which it just isn’t, as there are limitations just like with real musicians.…
Yes, I agree, the musicians aren't mystros. And their technique could use improvement. But I think the analogy holds (from an output point of view), the musicians will continue to improve, and some sections play better than others. The overall effect is "pleasing" although perhaps not concert quality.
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It kinda sorta did. Decades ago, all music was played by live players. Today, there are lots of albums, lots of background music on television, radio, etc., that is made mostly or entirely using MIDI-controlled virtual instruments. No longer do you need to book an actual chamber orchestra for a little 30-second spot on some cooking show. So those musicians are no longer getting booked for that bit of music. Instead,…
Yeah my point was that there's not much existing software within a business that's the equivalent of an ad jingle, unless you really split hairs and start counting excel macros or something. Will there be new software like that? Maybe, but you'll never hear about it. Not only because it's throwaway code, but because the best interface is probably no code at all. The chatbot will instead spin up a VM behind the scenes…
I wonder if there’s any parallel to that in software?