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RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by joshu »

bullen wrote: post #49

The more interesting metric is running HL2 on Pi4, Pi5 and 3588: Pi4: 20 FPS same when using ffmpeg to stream to twitch. 5W Pi5: 40 FPS idem as above. 10W 3588: 300+ FPS and rock solid 60 FPS streaming to twitch. 15W So 5090 is not even interesting for gameplay. More polygons and larger textures do not make games more fun to play. AAA has peaked and C++ does not even deliver interesting games any more. C#/Java are wa…

the rockchip hw is really exciting lately, in general. i am using a bunch of them for streaming.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by kergonath »

azalemeth wrote: post #13
xattt wrote: post #4

> Cyberpunk barely hits 16 FPS average on the Pi 5. This is a lot better than my memories of forcing a Pentium MMX 200 MHz PC with 32 MB SDRAM and an ATI All-in-Wonder Pro of running games from the early 2000s.

I'm pretty sure I completed Morrowind for the first time ever using both wine and a celeron. Likewise before that with VirtualPC (remember that?) on Mac OS (note the space!) and Age of Empires (not even Rise of Rome!). Single-digit FPS can _absolutely_ be playable if you're a desperate enough ten-year-old...

> Single-digit FPS can _absolutely_ be playable if you're a desperate enough ten-year-old...

I have fond memories of playing Diablo II at 16 fps on an old (even at the time) PowerMac. I am not sure I could do it now.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by brcmthrowaway »

joshu wrote: post #51
bullen wrote: post #49

The more interesting metric is running HL2 on Pi4, Pi5 and 3588: Pi4: 20 FPS same when using ffmpeg to stream to twitch. 5W Pi5: 40 FPS idem as above. 10W 3588: 300+ FPS and rock solid 60 FPS streaming to twitch. 15W So 5090 is not even interesting for gameplay. More polygons and larger textures do not make games more fun to play. AAA has peaked and C++ does not even deliver interesting games any more. C#/Java are wa…

the rockchip hw is really exciting lately, in general. i am using a bunch of them for streaming.

Aren't they GPL violators?

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

#54

Post by reactordev »

iamtheworstdev wrote: post #20
reactordev wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything changed with Voodoo Banshee’s

rarely has a company rested so hard on their laurels as 3dFX

Whatever, Glide was amazing! So much so that Nvidia bought them.

I remember what a huge difference it was having a dedicated 3D card capable of fast 2D and 3D vs the software rasterizer. Yes, NovaLogic games ran better. Yes, you can play Doom at decent FPS. Yes, SpecOps ran at full monitor resolution. They had a LOT to brag about.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by kergonath »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #28
azalemeth wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure I completed Morrowind for the first time ever using both wine and a celeron. Likewise before that with VirtualPC (remember that?) on Mac OS (note the space!) and Age of Empires (not even Rise of Rome!). Single-digit FPS can _absolutely_ be playable if you're a desperate enough ten-year-old...

When I played (original vanilla) WoW I remember getting 2-3 fps in 40 player raids. The cursor wasn't tied to the game's framerate though. So with the right UI layout made from addons I could still be a pretty effective healer. I don't even remember what the dungeons looked like, just a giant grid of health bars, buttons and threat-meter graphs. This would have been on some kind of Pentium 4 with integrated graphics.…

> When I played (original vanilla) WoW I remember getting 2-3 fps in 40 player raids.

I had to look at the ground and get the camera as close as possible to cross between the AH and the bank in IF. Otherwise I’d get about 0.1 fps and had to close the game, which meant waiting in line to get back. Those were the days.

> So with the right UI layout made from addons I could still be a pretty effective healer.

I got pretty good with the timings and could almost play without looking at the screen. But I was DD and it was vanilla so nobody cared if I sucked as long as I got far away with the bombs.

> I don't even remember what the dungeons looked like, just a giant grid of health bars, buttons and threat-meter graphs.

I was talking a couple of weeks ago with a mate who was MT at the time and told me he knew the feet and legs of all the bosses but never saw the animations or the faces before coming back with an alt a couple of years later. I was happy as a warlock, enjoying the scenery. With a refresh rate that gave me ample time to admire it before the next frame :D

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by kergonath »

behnamoh wrote: post #9

What are we supposed to do with this information? It would have been more meaningful if the author tried the GPU card with an old machine, rather than a Raspberry Pi

> What are we supposed to do with this information?

Nothing. It’s just fun.

> t would have been more meaningful if the author tried the GPU card with an old machine, rather than a Raspberry Pi

But then it would have been lame. Who cares? If your old machine is a x86 less than 10 years old it’s most likely faster than the Pi. But that’s not the point. The point is to pair a cheap fun computer with a humongous and expensive card and see if it works. Because it’s fun.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by wincy »

Onawa wrote: post #37
wincy wrote: post #31

I assume the “anti-cheat” he brings up in Doom: The Dark Ages is actually Denuvo, which likely would have some issues running, although a January 2025 post on Phoronix indicates maybe it does work, or Denuvo support is being worked on? [0] Doom The Dark Ages is a single player game, so I’m not sure who you’d be cheating against, aside from maybe some real Buzz Killington’s saying you’re “cheating Microsoft by piratin…

Denuvo is DRM, not anticheat.

Right, I’m pointing out that as a purely single player game, how would one cheat in Doom: The Dark Ages?

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

reactordev wrote: post #54
iamtheworstdev wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

rarely has a company rested so hard on their laurels as 3dFX

Whatever, Glide was amazing! So much so that Nvidia bought them. I remember what a huge difference it was having a dedicated 3D card capable of fast 2D and 3D vs the software rasterizer. Yes, NovaLogic games ran better. Yes, you can play Doom at decent FPS. Yes, SpecOps ran at full monitor resolution. They had a LOT to brag about.

Glide is precisely what made me hate 3dfx and was glad they died.

As a developer, I'm sure Glide was great.

But as a kid that really wanted a 3dfx Voodoo card for Christmas so I could play all the sweet 3D games that only supported Glide, I was upset when my dad got me a Rendition Verite 2200. But I didn't want to seem ungrateful, so my frustration was pointed to 3dfx for releasing a proprietary API.

I was glad that Direct3D and OpenGL quickly surpassed Glide's popularity.

But yeah, then 3dfx failed to innovate. IIRC, they lagged behind in 32-bit color rendering support as well as letting themselves get caught with their pants down when NVIDIA released the GeForce and introduced hardware transform which allowed the GPU to be more than just a texturing engine. I think that was the nail in 3dfx's coffin.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by NewsaHackO »

azalemeth wrote: post #13
xattt wrote: post #4

> Cyberpunk barely hits 16 FPS average on the Pi 5. This is a lot better than my memories of forcing a Pentium MMX 200 MHz PC with 32 MB SDRAM and an ATI All-in-Wonder Pro of running games from the early 2000s.

I'm pretty sure I completed Morrowind for the first time ever using both wine and a celeron. Likewise before that with VirtualPC (remember that?) on Mac OS (note the space!) and Age of Empires (not even Rise of Rome!). Single-digit FPS can _absolutely_ be playable if you're a desperate enough ten-year-old...

>Single-digit FPS can _absolutely_ be playable if you're a desperate enough ten-year-old...

And somehow, more mesmerizing than games feels like playing now. To be a kid again.

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