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Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Re: Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Post by trimethylpurine »

nemo wrote: post #23
utternerd wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That article cites nothing other than someone's model. There is no hard evidence in what you linked.

While the quantification isn't inherently reliable, the reality of many dead at the hands at Elon Mush is a simple fact that's not up for dispute. The only question is how many he's killed so far. He cut off life saving meds to sick kids and food aid to the areas with food shortages, the deaths are known and reliably reported.

Technically his department produced and advised on the data. It's just a government BI team. This is like blaming the BI team for the CEO's decision to fire people. Part of the process, sure. But this a decision made by the majority of Congress. Let's not forget who the bad guy is.

Re: Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Post by suburban_strike »

nemo wrote: post #23
utternerd wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That article cites nothing other than someone's model. There is no hard evidence in what you linked.

While the quantification isn't inherently reliable, the reality of many dead at the hands at Elon Mush is a simple fact that's not up for dispute. The only question is how many he's killed so far. He cut off life saving meds to sick kids and food aid to the areas with food shortages, the deaths are known and reliably reported.

> a simple fact that's not up for dispute

We used to say the same about the male/female binary.

> He cut off life saving meds

Sophistry. Forcing charity is literal enslavement. Withholding charity is not homicide.

Re: Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Post by _menelaus »

wilg wrote: post #11
phaser wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we have mass murdering CEOs now? What did I miss?

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Every day you decide not to donate a fraction of your income to medicine in Africa. How many deaths are you responsible for?

Re: Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Post by wilg »

suburban_strike wrote: post #52
nemo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the quantification isn't inherently reliable, the reality of many dead at the hands at Elon Mush is a simple fact that's not up for dispute. The only question is how many he's killed so far. He cut off life saving meds to sick kids and food aid to the areas with food shortages, the deaths are known and reliably reported.

> a simple fact that's not up for dispute We used to say the same about the male/female binary. > He cut off life saving meds Sophistry. Forcing charity is literal enslavement. Withholding charity is not homicide.

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Re: Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Post by burnte »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #32

There's no question in my mind that having kids gets in the way of single-minded vision that's required of the kind of career success that Jobs had. It's unfortunate, but the reality is that having kids and actually caring for them in a way that gives the best chance to turn them into good, undamaged human beings requires a massive amount of attention that would heavily distract from lofty career goals. If the drive…

> There's no question in my mind that having kids gets in the way of single-minded vision that's required of the kind of career success that Jobs had.

It's a common misconception because so many psychopaths become examples of "successful businessmen" but they're not successful PEOPLE. Steve's arrogance literally killed him, his insistence he knew better than everyone made him ignore his cancer until it was too late.

No one should try to be the next Steve Jobs. Be better than he was, better to your family, better to your employees, better to your friends. There's no one Steve didn't try to screw at some point. That's not success.

Re: Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

Cornbilly wrote: post #12
caycep wrote: post #4

it seems quaint to dunk on Jobs now...he seems like a saint in comparison, in light of Mao Zedong-style mass-murder-by-policy from the current crop of tech industry CEOs.

Don’t forget the child porn generator.

> Don’t forget the child porn generator.

Details reported today suggest to me he's more than just a billionaire edgelord:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/tech/elon-musk-xai-digital-un...

> Musk has pushed back against guardrails for Grok [...] Musk has “been unhappy about over-censoring” on Grok “for a long time.” [...] At one meeting in recent weeks before the latest controversy erupted, Musk held a meeting with xAI staffers from various teams where he “was really unhappy” over restrictions on Grok’s Imagine image and video generator

...how are the shareholders not in revolt over this?

Re: Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Post by rib3ye »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #14
rib3ye wrote: post #13

I can't wait to hear stories from Linus' kid's childhoods.

Totally different. Linus is a jerk for justice, Steve was just a narcissistic asshole.

I believe the point here is to evaluate if we're cool with how we treated our kids being part of our legacy.

Re: Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Post by ikrenji »

_menelaus wrote: post #53
wilg wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Every day you decide not to donate a fraction of your income to medicine in Africa. How many deaths are you responsible for?

having the power to destroy a government agency that provides aid and actually going through with it is not morally equal to not donating a few dollars of your income

Re: Memoir by Steve Jobs’ eldest daughter describes ways he was cruel to her (2018)

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Post by solid_fuel »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #57
Cornbilly wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t forget the child porn generator.

> Don’t forget the child porn generator. Details reported today suggest to me he's more than just a billionaire edgelord: https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/tech/elon-musk-xai-digital-un... > Musk has pushed back against guardrails for Grok [...] Musk has “been unhappy about over-censoring” on Grok “for a long time.” [...] At one meeting in recent weeks before the latest controversy erupted, Musk held a meeting with xAI…

The stock seems completely disconnected from the antics of Musk. I would think that having a CEO who is clearly a heavy ketamine user and spends more time playing politician than actually running the company would have a negative impact on the stock, but tesla's stock has been divorced from reality for a long time.
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