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Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by toyg »

ItsBob wrote: post #38
nl wrote: post #27

AMD Ryzen AI 300 These are great . The Ryzen AI series are the ones that allow memory to be shared between the GPU and CPU, so you can use almost all your system RAM to run local models. The AI 395+ MAX is available with up to 128Gb RAM (and I think 256Gb is coming). The important thing is how much RAM it comes with because it is soldered - and for some reason this doesn't seem to show the RAM!

If you scroll further down, there's an image of a woman holding an opened keyboard with a SODIMM in her other hand so I'd guess that means it's user-swappable.

If really aimed at the business segment, as it appears to be, it's likely to have serviceable RAM.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by toyg »

hulitu wrote: post #46
toyg wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's for businesses that don't need high computation, achieving effectively the same "monitor and keyboard" effect as the iMac; and for people using AR glasses like XReal One, Viture, etc.

> It's for businesses that don't need high computation 100 svchost.exe processes, Croudstrike, Ivanti and one more antispyware for "compliance". Yes, no more power left for actual computation.

Countdown to the first blog post about Linux "running so fast" on this thing.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by prmoustache »

ghshephard wrote: post #13
Nextgrid wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the advantages of this over a laptop (this is essentially laptop-grade hardware and thermal profile but without the screen & battery).

It has an optional battery. This could be pretty epic for a glasses interface.

You'd want a TKL, not a 105 keys at the very least if you were interested by portability.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by prmoustache »

hulitu wrote: post #47
olyjohn wrote: post #29

What's old is new again. Hasn't anybody seen a Commodore 64?

Compared with Commodore 64, this HP is a parody. They spared the space to a minimum (is cheap plastic so expensive ?), the keyboard is terrible. The main advantage seems to be that, if you try to actually use it, it will force you to take a break, because your fingers will be burning from touching the keys heated by the processor.

I'd welcome a heated keyboard right now, temp is 17°C in my office as I am writing this and I do feel my fingers tend to be less reactive.

Funny because I don't mind 17°C outside.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by bilekas »

toyg wrote: post #49
Animats wrote: post #43

The fine print: HP recommends Windows 11 Pro for Business. Not all features are available in all editions or versions of Windows. Systems may require upgraded and/or separately purchased hardware, drivers, software or BIOS update to take full advantage of Windows functionality. Windows 11 is automatically updated, which is always enabled. High speed internet and Microsoft account required. ISP fees may apply and addi…

That's... standard Windows? It's 100% the same for Apple machines, if stated in more mellifluous tones (or not stated at all, because "screw you, we're Apple"), and even more so for Chromebooks.

> It's 100% the same for Apple machines,

> Requires Microsoft account to log in. Where Copilot is not available, the Copilot key will lead to the Bing search engine.

An Apple account is most certainly not needed to log in. In-fact being online is not even a requirement for Apple devices. Wild idea, I know.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by diffeomorphism »

Nextgrid wrote: post #10
claaams wrote: post #6

I want less microsoft/copilot in things, not more. I don't know who this is for.

I don't understand the advantages of this over a laptop (this is essentially laptop-grade hardware and thermal profile but without the screen & battery).

Companies often have flex offices with docking stations.

So previously you would have a screen, mouse and keyboard at every desk and people would move a laptop (ignoring its low res screen and bad keyboard).

Here you would have just a screen at every desk and people move their mouse and keyboard.

Also, this does have a battery.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by wolrah »

toyg wrote: post #34

I actually love the concept. It's effectively like the iMac, except more flexible and serviceable - great for kiosks and shared workstations. One could also couple it with AR glasses like the XREAL One and have portable computing but more immersive (although it looks a little big for that). I don't understand the scepticism - surely it's good that we see some experimentation again on the form factor of computing, we…

> great for kiosks and shared workstations.

Absolutely not.

For a kiosk, I want everything the user is touching to be effectively disposable. Keyboards and mice are cheap and trivial to replace, this design integrates the most important part of the system in to one of the easiest parts to damage/steal. It's possibly the worst way to do a kiosk.

For a shared workstation, likewise if I'm the user I want to be able to bring my own keyboard and mouse, both for sanitary reasons (have you seen the way people treat their own keyboards, much less shared ones?) and for personal preference. This design integrates the most important part of the system with the part most likely to get gunked up.

Even for the idea of a shared docking station where each user has their own keyboard PC, it's a crappy keyboard. Perhaps if it were a nice mechanical board with swappable keyswitches that might not be terrible, but as it is it's all of the downsides of a laptop without the ability to actually use it undocked.

Whatever use cases may exist where this is actually an improvement are very specific niches.

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