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AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by pm90 »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

Its a market signal; we’re going to see a massive boom in investment (mostly from China, but still) in capacity expansion. Eventually the prices will stabilize.

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Post by immibis »

JustFinishedBSG wrote: post #42
aurareturn wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? No if we're in a working free market. Companies will see the rising prices and start making more of those things, bringing prices back down.

How, when foundries are a natural monopoly? How can you realistically create a startup to build a multibillion / multi year fab ?

Same way you can create a startup to build a multibillion dollar data center presumably.

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Post by vladvasiliu »

walthamstow wrote: post #21
xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

> You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription This is here already. A long time ago, maybe even before covid, I asked a table of iPhone-owning friends who pays Apple a monthly sub for storage, and every hand went up. I know you mention home computers, but most of my friends don't have one. Their iPhone is their computer.

As sibling says, the question is too vague. I also pay for icloud, but I store all my things locally on my devices. The point is effortless sync and basic backup (protect pictures from phone theft).

I also pay Hetzner for a storage box or whatever it's called, where I regularly send backups of my stuff with restic. One of the sources is a local fat ZFS NAS, which I can access from everywhere via wireguard.

Yet, the only reason I'm contemplating buying a new iPhone is to get larger local storage. I'm also biting my fingers for not having pulled the trigger on a larger SSD for my main machine two months ago.

Every solution has different use cases, and I think no single one is perfect. I get the best value from using a mix.

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Post by muvlon »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

I don't know how everyone arrives at that conclusion when the cost of the subscription services is also going up (as evidenced by the very article we're talking about). People who are renting are feeling this immediately, whereas people who bought their computers can wait the price hikes out for a couple years before they really need an upgrade.

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Post by kotaKat »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

It already has and I’ve seen the worst of it in less than 24 hours.

I signed up for a Windows Cloud PC trial, got settled into the Windows instance, then the next morning Microsoft terminated the trial for zero reason and wiped out everything in that instance.

You will own nothing and rent nothing, too.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by vladvasiliu »

vcanales wrote: post #48
supriyo-biswas wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone is in it for the storage though, I use it mostly as a reliable syncing solution for my photos, as well as for iCloud private relay.

> I use it mostly as a reliable syncing solution for my photos That is... storage.

I think GP's point was rather the "optimized storage" schtick of apple devices, where they "unload" whatever you have locally on iCloud and use that as "regular" storage. Syncing, even though it also actually stores, is a fairly different use case. Could you implement that some other way? Sure. But I still think it's fair to point it's a different use case than "regular storage".

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Post by forty »

zwnow wrote: post #32
mikasisiki wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s possible. Either way, many people literally sleep in a monthly subscription model — rent.

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I don't disagree, but I would argue that the same thing can be said from any kind of "investor" who then capture most of the value produced just because it turned out they had the money that others had not (most of the time just because they were born in the right family)

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by thrance »

XorNot wrote: post #38
haritha-j wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a resource allocation perspective, this doesn't feel particularly undesirable, at least in terms of certain assets like vehicles. The current system of ownership is quite wasteful. I own a high end GPU that I use maybe 4 hours a week for gaming.

If capitalism prices me out of owning property, then I've not much use for it.

Billions are already "priced out" of owning property, why do you think you joining them would have any broader impact?

EDIT: I don't know why I'm being downvoted. Billions of human beings have absolutely nothing to their names, and they have no power to change things. Because they own nothing. That's a basic fact of our globalized capitalist economy.

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Post by apexalpha »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

>Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services?

Since they're thin clients anyway we could even make them small and mobile, perhaps replace mouse and keyboard with a touch screen.

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