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Pink Power Ranger takes down white supremacist dating sites

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Re: Pink Power Ranger takes down white supremacist dating sites

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That is kind of the point of a law, to be impartial. Without it we might as well go back to the stone age.

Sometimes laws are bad - but people in Kohlberg stage 4 don't think so. There are many obvious historical counterexamples to laws being neutral, or good.

I am simply not for vigilante justice

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https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-the-heartbreak-machine-nazis-in-... The 40 minutes of the presentation before the hack gives a lot more context: there are 2 journalists in addition to this anonymous pink Power Ranger, and they investigated the Nazi network, which is international. And Martha Root (the pink power ranger) was trolling them by creating an account and using LLM. The LLM didn't work properly, the account was…

Thank you! I only searched on YouTube and didn’t think to search on the actual c3 website…

It's also on YouTube, the first result when I search for "39c3 whitedate", but only in German there.

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While no one likes racists: A crime against someone you disagree with is still a crime. A crime against someone you despise is still a crime. A crime against someone who commits a crime is still a crime. So good intent, very, very bad execution, IMO.

A act against someone random may be a crime. The same against someone committing a crime, may not be a crime.

Well, in your own personal version of justice

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This is how it is done, the hacker ‘Martha Root’ dressed as the pink power ranger and hacked white supremacist dating sites, stole their data, took down their sites and then proceeded to DOX members by making a map with members locations and information around the world.

You do understand that if their side does the same, you won't have any kind of moral high ground to stand on because you have already condoned stooping to their level?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46515191

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While no one likes racists: A crime against someone you disagree with is still a crime. A crime against someone you despise is still a crime. A crime against someone who commits a crime is still a crime. So good intent, very, very bad execution, IMO.

Here we see an example of the law-and-order personality type, where the most important thing is to follow the law.

Yeah and DnD has lawful evil as an alignment for a reason!

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You do understand that if their side does the same, you won't have any kind of moral high ground to stand on because you have already condoned stooping to their level?

I think the side that isn’t full of white supremacists would have the moral high ground by default.

I'm not sure how much that would mean swinging from the rafters of [insert intolerant country]. The white supremacists will maybe lose their jobs or reputation, but the consequences could be much more dire in retaliation.

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This is how it is done, the hacker ‘Martha Root’ dressed as the pink power ranger and hacked white supremacist dating sites, stole their data, took down their sites and then proceeded to DOX members by making a map with members locations and information around the world.

You do understand that if their side does the same, you won't have any kind of moral high ground to stand on because you have already condoned stooping to their level?

When Batman corners the Joker it's good. When the Joker corners Batman it's bad.

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Well, in your own personal version of justice

law in my country

What country?

In the UK Vigilante justice is punished extremely hard.

If you commit a crime in the commission of preventing crime you will go to jail. There's a couple of things that are permitted and they're outlined as "detainment without excessive force" - for citizens arrest, and then it's only for the duration until a relevant authority can be called... with a maximum term of time that authority must be called.. It's extremely limited.

And one of the offences specifically not permissible for citizens arrest is inciting racial hatred.

https://www.westminstersecurity.co.uk/news/citizens-arrest-u...

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law in my country

What country? In the UK Vigilante justice is punished extremely hard. If you commit a crime in the commission of preventing crime you will go to jail. There's a couple of things that are permitted and they're outlined as "detainment without excessive force" - for citizens arrest, and then it's only for the duration until a relevant authority can be called... with a maximum term of time that authority must be called..…

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