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Incremental Backups of Gmail Takeouts

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Re: Incremental Backups of Gmail Takeouts

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How would that help 99.5% of their user base?

As it currently stands, it's still not user friendly.

You literally just open mbox files with Apple Mail.app, it's the easiest action that the (now long-established) WIMP user interface offers.

Re: Incremental Backups of Gmail Takeouts

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Extracting the attachment will break signatures. This likely won’t be a problem for 99% or the people out there, but it’s important to be aware of the caveat.

If at some point in the future you need to prove that you received a given message, having the signatures (eg: DKIM) intact makes all the difference.

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Serious question: have you ever needed an email from even 5 years ago? I only save financial statements and contact information. Everything else gets deleted as soon as possible.

"Five years ago" was 2020. What you're asking is, "Have you, at some point in 2025, needed an email from 2019, 2018, etc. (i.e. from some time before that)?" The answer: Yes, of course. (And I don't understand why anyone other than, say, a university undergrad or someone younger should find that answer surprising.)

Near 50 and I can't say I need any email from 3 years ago; this is conservative, I'm probably ok with not needing emails from a year ago. Just like I don't need chat history either. What are you storing in your emails that you need to keep it beyond this? Genuinely interested. Genuinely have no clue why you'd be storing emails any length of time.

Re: Incremental Backups of Gmail Takeouts

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Serious question: have you ever needed an email from even 5 years ago? I only save financial statements and contact information. Everything else gets deleted as soon as possible.

Maybe not “need” in the strictest sense, but there have been more times than I can count where digging up old mail has either made things much faster and easier or helped me answer a random question that popped into my head about something that happened ages ago. Old SMS, iMessage, Telegram etc messages have been useful from time to time too for similar reasons. Both can also serve as exceptional time capsules that p…

Seriously? I keep nothing unless I have to. No chat history no emails. Even if I did I'd never look back at them, what's the point?

Re: Incremental Backups of Gmail Takeouts

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Serious question: have you ever needed an email from even 5 years ago? I only save financial statements and contact information. Everything else gets deleted as soon as possible.

Despite your down votes I'm completely in agreement. Emails and chat are transient and expire. Unless I need to keep it for, like you say, a good reason, then it's deleted.

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Serious question: have you ever needed an email from even 5 years ago? I only save financial statements and contact information. Everything else gets deleted as soon as possible.

> Everything else gets deleted as soon as possible. What's the advantage to deleting? It's easy to ignore anything old and disk space is cheap. Do you delete old photos?

My point of view is what's the advantages of keeping it?

I keep photos, though I don't keep all photos. But emails and messages? Why...

Re: Incremental Backups of Gmail Takeouts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Five years ago" was 2020. What you're asking is, "Have you, at some point in 2025, needed an email from 2019, 2018, etc. (i.e. from some time before that)?" The answer: Yes, of course. (And I don't understand why anyone other than, say, a university undergrad or someone younger should find that answer surprising.)

Near 50 and I can't say I need any email from 3 years ago; this is conservative, I'm probably ok with not needing emails from a year ago. Just like I don't need chat history either. What are you storing in your emails that you need to keep it beyond this? Genuinely interested. Genuinely have no clue why you'd be storing emails any length of time.

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Re: Incremental Backups of Gmail Takeouts

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Isn't it easier to just backup via IMAP to maildir versioned with git? Does takeout include any metadata not accessible via IMAP? Does it even include labels?

I've read somewhere that a GMail user was banned or the like for using IMAP for backups, trying to find the reference...

Re: Incremental Backups of Gmail Takeouts

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What about using the Gmail API and listening for recent changes? I suppose it wouldn't be in a mailbox format that could be easily exported to another provider, though?

I have a tool that saves each mail as a single file using the Gmail API: https://github.com/rigtorp/gmbackup
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