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Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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post #10

Offtopic: This is the first time I'm seeing a post "on" app.net and not "about" app.net

Might be something to do with people usually not linking to tweets unless they're really notable. And app.net items are effectively just long tweets.

Technically this is more like a thread with comments.

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've taken to flagging all comments like this. I don't think it even remotely adds to the discussion to pick some usability issue and harp on it. These kind of comments crop up for every story. Easy way to score points, not useful, buries better comments. I think a good rule of thumb is that if you didn't need to read the article to make a comment, it's not a good comment.

That's exactly what the down-vote is meant for. If you think a comment is off-topic, down vote the post and perhaps add a comment as to why you think it deserves to be down-voted. Flagging is expensive, in that it requires mod (human) attention. It should be reserved for spam and other egregious posts. Let the mods spend their valuable time on more important tasks.

Do moderators actually go through all flagged items? If so, that would probably explain why I can't flag anymore. I assumed flagging was automated, so I basically used it as down-vote for articles.

I emailed info@yc about my lack of flagging ability a couple months back. They said nothing was wrong with my account. Now I feel bad that I wasted someone's time. :(

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

#53

A related story: I was recently shopping around for a new ISP. One I considered was Verizon FiOS. In order to see the prices in my area, I had to enter my address. Two weeks later, I got a letter in the mail. Written outside on the envelope was something like: "We noticed you were checking out our website! Here's a special offer just for you..." It's not the same as what OP posted, but it certainly left me creeped ou…

Why are you so creeped out that they sent you a piece of advertising by mail after you gave them your address? It'd hardly be surprising these days if you received spam after giving away your e-mail address.

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

#54
post #5

Just so everyone knows, AT&T does the same thing. You have 30 days from the date of your contract before they start passing it out, but I believe you can opt out of future transactions on the site. Try going to http://att.com/ecpnioptout (if you got a new contract with your iPhone 5, do it this week!) Edit: I should say, AT&T does something similar . I do not know if it is the same thing, since their opt-out page mak…

Further update, because I can no longer edit my post...

If you're trying to opt out and it isn't working for any reason, attempt it again during normal business hours (9-5, EST or PST) and see if it does work. As ridiculous as it seems, many functions cannot be performed outside of this window including registering my billing account. Try again tomorrow around midday and those mysterious "timeouts", "unknown errors", etc may magically disappear. If not, your provider should have a phone number you can call (oh, goody) to take care of the same thing.

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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These are the steps to opt out of Verizon “selling your personal data”, as far as I can tell: Visit http://www.vzw.com/myprivacy . If you are not already signed in to My Verizon, you will be prompted to sign in – after doing so, return to that myprivacy page. Click the link “Manage Location Privacy settings” near the bottom, which points to https://locationmanagement.vzw.com/ You should now be at “Location Management…

Exact same for me. I'd like to opt out but I have no idea how from the instructions provided.

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

#58

Thanks for the PSA. While I understand why these things tend to be opt-out by default, I'm surprised there was no email from Verizon updating users about these new settings with a link to opt-out if they wanted to. I used to think that the telecom industry is a lot more regulated than social network companies like Facebook, but I guess that's not really true!

They are definitely more regulated than social network companies, fortunately though they've captured the regulator as predicted by economics so they get to seek rent instead of worrying about regulators.

The telecom industry has so effectively captured their regulator that when they are caught tapping phones without warrant they are exempted from lawsuits instead of prosecuted vigorously.

If you offered a non-compliant unlimited data/voice/voicemail plan for $20 a month you'd have people lined up around the block, no one would care your phone won't work with CALEA and no one would care that your address wasn't in the 911 database. You'd also be extremely profitable using off the shelf hardware like software radios, and non-compliant open source telephony software.

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might be something to do with people usually not linking to tweets unless they're really notable. And app.net items are effectively just long tweets.

Technically this is more like a thread with comments.

Twitter displays threads, as well. See the following tweet as an example: https://twitter.com/tvladeck/status/255775327165505536

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

#60

A related story: I was recently shopping around for a new ISP. One I considered was Verizon FiOS. In order to see the prices in my area, I had to enter my address. Two weeks later, I got a letter in the mail. Written outside on the envelope was something like: "We noticed you were checking out our website! Here's a special offer just for you..." It's not the same as what OP posted, but it certainly left me creeped ou…

Heh, that's why I always fake address details when I'm checking out cable or DSL options. Of course they're going to use the personal information you enter for marketing purposes, that's why they ask for specifics like apartment number and your mobile number that they don't need to determine service availability.

that's a clever way of sticking it to them, jrock. i feel sorry for my neighbors already.
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