I have a 5700X3D laying around. Should I finally get around to installing it? Or should I sell it? I have a 3600 installed.
If you aren’t using it then sell
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
#52The 5800X3D is an almost four year old CPU (2022), which was the last major product on its platform (first product in 2016, last new chipset launched in 2020). The successor platform (AM5) was released just months later and is now about 2/3rds or so through its lifecycle. Normally an old, used CPU for a dead 10yo platform will go for a small fraction the MSRP. Not a multiple. Silicon economy seems in a good shape.
> Normally an old, used CPU for a dead platform will go for a small fraction the MSRP.
True in general- used CPUs from discontinued platforms sell for a small fraction of the original MSRP.
Buuuut, the final flagship part on nearly every platform is an exception to this rule. They are generally sought after as the definitive 'End Game Upgrade' because they provide users with the simplest, most cost-effective performance boost—a single component swap—bypassing the need for a costly migration to a successor platform (which requires new RAM and a new motherboard).
It tends to happen every generation swap, 5800X3D is just the latest.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
#53The 5800X3D is an almost four year old CPU (2022), which was the last major product on its platform (first product in 2016, last new chipset launched in 2020). The successor platform (AM5) was released just months later and is now about 2/3rds or so through its lifecycle. Normally an old, used CPU for a dead 10yo platform will go for a small fraction the MSRP. Not a multiple. Silicon economy seems in a good shape.
Despite it's age the 5800X3D is still one of the best CPUs you can get for gaming.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
It didn't stop people from buying the most expensive cards and CPUs when the world was ending in COVID-19 days. Average Joe doesn't know anything about CPUs. This is a gaming community that squeezes the most out of each buck. I wouldn't use CPU market for economic prediction.
Average Joe does not know anything about CPUs, but when they are out to buy a new computer they can see the prices of a new DDR5 computer vs an older or used DDR4 one.
Do they even know what DDR5 or DDR4 are? Best Buy still sells 10-year-old laptops, and people buy them. CPU power means nothing to the average user. They do not know anything about RAM or CPU. Maybe here and there, a little disk space knowledge, just because they are familiar with the concept of disk space because of their phones.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
#55Based on the benchmarks that I've seen, 5800X3D is still a good CPU for games, when paired with a very expensive GPU, otherwise a 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter. Someone with the money for a nVidia 5800 GPU will pair it with a 9800X3D, for most games even 16 GB of RAM will work and would be cheap enough, while for applications one does not need X3D, so what exactly is the point of 5800X3…
> 5600X is cheaper and acts less than a heater over the winter It’s impossible to keep my 5800x below 90C under full load.
Does your motherboard have auto-oc enabled? Have you checked what voltage it's using? Have you tried setting a negative voltage offset and stability testing? Some motherboards will apply 1.3v+ when 1.2v is plenty.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
#56Be careful with these older boards. Some might be PCIe 3.0 making your GPU and NVMe dog slow.
Not a problem for MWLL - it's still the Crysis engine anyway. But seriously, claiming "dog slow" is certainly an overstatement. You lose some of the top performance, not below - and it's still ~4/16GB/s
Mechwarrior Living Legends my belowed.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
#57Rocking my 5800x from 2022, 32gb ram.
I have my 5800X in my AM4 motherboard from 2017. My current system as been beyond any doubts the best bang for my bucks of any computer I have built.
Same, 5800X in my X470 AORUS mobo and it's been fantastic, no desire to upgrade (already had the 64gb ram, so the CPU swap was simple, I think I got $50 from my old 2700 cpu)
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
#58Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
#59Yikes. This DDR shortage is distorting everything.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D sells for more than 9800X3D, enthusiasts flock to AM4 DDR4
#60I have a 5700X3D laying around. Should I finally get around to installing it? Or should I sell it? I have a 3600 installed.
5700X3D is a big boost in games over the 3600. I would say install it, these days you don't even have to re-install windows when changing a CPU