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8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

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Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#51

I treat extensions like they're all capable of privileged local code execution. My selection is very vetted and very small.

Same here, uBlock Origin and EFF's Privacy Badger are the only extensions I trust enough to install.

Ditto, plus 1pass / BitWarden.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#53
post #43

From my experience, Google does not do a thorough app review. Reviewers get maybe a few minutes to review and move on due to the volume of apps awaiting review.

I imagine this would be a great use case for AI helping out?

No way that could backfire... Prompt injection is a solved problem right?

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#54
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me ask you this way: How do you think they make money?

I believe you may be missing the sarcasm of the post you are responding to.

I’m here to inform you that you perhaps missed the second-order sarcasm of the post you responded to. Hopefully the chain ends here.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#55
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me ask you this way: How do you think they make money?

I believe you may be missing the sarcasm of the post you are responding to.

He may have understood it, but the feelings of anger about it are so overwhelming he had to post anyway, even if it didn't perfectly flow with the conversation.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#56

So much of what's aimed at nontechnical consumers these days is full of dishonesty and abuse. Microsoft kinda turned Windows into something like this, you need OneDrive "for your protection", new telemetry and ads with every update, etc. In much of the physical world thankfully there's laws and pretty-effective enforcement against people clubbing you on the head and taking your stuff, retail stores selling fake produ…

This was a nearly poetic way to put it. Thank you for ascribing words to a problem that equally frustrates me. I spend a lot of time trying to think of concrete ways to improve the situation, and would love to hear people's ideas. Instinctively I tend to agree it largely comes down to treating your users like human beings.

The situation won’t be improved for as long as an incentive structure exists that drives the degradation of the user experience.

Get as off-grid as you possibly can. Try to make your everyday use of technology as deterministic as possible. The free market punishes anyone who “respects their users”. Your best bet is some type of tech co-op funded partially by a billionaire who decided to be nice one day.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#57

Google needs to act on removing these extensions/doing more thorough code reviews. Reputability is everything, and they can be actually valuable (e.g. LastPass, my own extension Ward) There has to be a better system. Maybe a public extension safety directory?

I’m not sure there’s much more juice to squeeze here via automated or semi-automated means. They could perhaps be doing these kind of human-in-the-loop reviews themselves for all extensions that hit a certain install count, but that’s not a popular technique at Google.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#58
post #47

I don't understand why so many people are using / trusting VPNs "Let us handle all your internet traffic.. you can trust us.. we're free!" No thank you.

Yeah free VPN is totally a problem, but there's TLS so at least those users aren't getting their bank account information stolen.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#60

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> They look really legitimate on the outside If that looks use-italics "really legitimate" to you, then you might be easily scammed. I'm not saying they're not legitimate, but nothing that you shared is a strong signal of legitimacy. It would take a perhaps a few hundred dollars a month to maintain a business that looked exactly like this, and maybe a couple thousand to buy one that somebody else had aged ahead of ti…

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