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Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by mschuster91 »

miki123211 wrote: post #14

To a European like me, United was such a weird airline to fly. There were actual commercials played before the safety video, the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?), and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight. At least the WiFi was reasonably cheap. Over here, that stuff would never fly (no pun…

> and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight

American airlines actually lose money on passenger flights - the cash cows are loyalty programs and freight transport [1].

[1] https://www.investopedia.com/the-four-biggest-us-airlines-al...

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by lateforwork »

zwnow wrote: post #24
schmuckonwheels wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?) Is it considered normal in Europe to watch pornography on public transit in public so children can see it? >Lufthansa longhaul flight My experience is different. Old planes, and Lufthansa cabin crew are cold and service was poor and inattentive.

Its normal in Europe to not watch any kind of pornography in public. Idk why you would do that.

Adult content does not necessarily mean pornography. It can include nudity, which Europeans are more comfortable with than Americans.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by thedogeye »

miki123211 wrote: post #14

To a European like me, United was such a weird airline to fly. There were actual commercials played before the safety video, the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?), and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight. At least the WiFi was reasonably cheap. Over here, that stuff would never fly (no pun…

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Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by alibarber »

bklyn11201 wrote: post #35
Klonoar wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight The largest of the airlines in America make more profit from this than the airline aspect itself. There is far more that could be said on this but, ironically, I am on a flight and about to land.

Europe will financialize everything just slower and with more regulation. Branded credit cards are coming. See Brussels Airlines and Mastercard A well optimized domestic USA airline makes money from credit cards, points, trip insurance, upsells, and segments the consumer into a dozen bins based on what they’re willing to spend for a couple more inches of leg room.

Not sure about your bit of Europe but I’ve had branded credit cards from European airlines here in Europe for a long time. They’re definitely past ‘coming’.

Not as lucrative for me the holder as you’d get it the US, but I can’t really imagine being without one.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by rick_dalton »

ceejayoz wrote: post #17
rick_dalton wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remind me what company is responsible for making the 777-200 engines (hint: it’s not Boeing)

Engine problems are hardly the only Boeing issue in recent years. Nor am I inclined to give them a pass on those; they are most certainly heavily involved in the engine design and production process, as they are on most outsourced parts they use.

The 777-200 is a 1994 design, way before all the recent trouble started. Its three engine types have been produced thousands of times, the GE90 has an excellent in flight shutdown rate of one per million flight hours for example.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by aosaigh »

thedogeye wrote: post #53
miki123211 wrote: post #14

To a European like me, United was such a weird airline to fly. There were actual commercials played before the safety video, the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?), and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight. At least the WiFi was reasonably cheap. Over here, that stuff would never fly (no pun…

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How edgy. Spoiler: we’re not too interested in appealing to America any more over here.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by vablings »

thedogeye wrote: post #53
miki123211 wrote: post #14

To a European like me, United was such a weird airline to fly. There were actual commercials played before the safety video, the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?), and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight. At least the WiFi was reasonably cheap. Over here, that stuff would never fly (no pun…

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Instead of complaining about legislators protecting your rights. Why don't you pressure sites to stop harvesting so much of your data?

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by vinni2 »

bklyn11201 wrote: post #35
Klonoar wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight The largest of the airlines in America make more profit from this than the airline aspect itself. There is far more that could be said on this but, ironically, I am on a flight and about to land.

Europe will financialize everything just slower and with more regulation. Branded credit cards are coming. See Brussels Airlines and Mastercard A well optimized domestic USA airline makes money from credit cards, points, trip insurance, upsells, and segments the consumer into a dozen bins based on what they’re willing to spend for a couple more inches of leg room.

Branded credit cards are already there in Europe but I never once have been advertised on the flight.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by rottencupcakes »

pdabbadabba wrote: post #38
rottencupcakes wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What has become much more degraded in Europe than America is the domestic flights. Try flying Lufthansa (or one of their half dozen subsidiaries created almost entirely to give worse service) anywhere inside of europe. Everything is a money grab and the service and boarding are terrible. United maintains a relatively consistent experience between domestic and international, minus the free alcohol.

> Try flying Lufthansa (or one of their half dozen subsidiaries created almost entirely to give worse service) anywhere inside of europe. Everything is a money grab and the service and boarding are terrible. FWIW, I just took such a flight and didn't notice anything that compares unfavorably to a domestic U.S. airline. (To be clear, it certainly wasn't better either.) Is there anything specific you can point to?

Every drink is for sale, even coffee. They aggressively use the bag sizer and try to take bags away at the gate, under the ruse that their tiny Airbus overhead bins cannot fit them (they can).

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Post by usefulcat »

_verandaguy wrote: post #10
schmuckonwheels wrote: post #3

Clickbait. The B777 is probably the safest, most meticulously engineered commercial wide-body aircraft ever built. They're also getting old, and airlines retire old aircraft.

These are the exact points written in the article. They also substantiate the idea that the United 777-200 fleet does face an uncertain future.

Entirely true, and also quite underwhelming compared to an engine failure.

Personally I'd be a lot more interested in the cause(s) of the failure and how it was handled.

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