Come to the Netherlands! It’s awesome. And the visa is easy: just put 5k in a business account. Look up Dutch American friendship treaty.
Is there reciprocity for this treaty?
Leaving the U.S. for the Netherlands
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#52Australian here, grew up in the great south-west, and then I lived in the USA for 15 years, decided it was bunk, switched to Europe and have now been in middle-Europe (Austria) for 18 years, with a year in the UK and a year in Japan, for context.
My quality of life has increased dramatically with every move. Europe as a place to live is just so much better than Aus->USA ever was .. better health care, better food, better people and culture.
Only thing that falters is the weather - but I tell you, there is nothing more joyous than Vienna in spring time.
Anyway, I've run the gamut on western civilization. I won't go back to the USA or Australia, no sir - and even if, only as a tourist, never to reside again. Ask me anything.
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#53Ah, yes. Of course, in the wake of the fall of the United States, everywhere else on earth will immediately flourish. Just my 2 cents, but before you leave, you might want to talk to some immigrants about what brought them to the United States in the first place.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the boat is sinking, I wouldn't stay on.
Back in 1930s Germany, there were other boats afloat to escape to. Here in 2025, you live in a globalized world. The rats are soon to be out of ships to flee to. There's no free society in the Sol system that survives rampant and unchecked authoritarianism in the triad of the US, China, and Russia. Europe is a military vassal of the first, an economic vassal of the second, and an energy vassal of the third (though in…
The billionaires seem to have settled on New Zealand as the right combo of “stable-enough liberal democracy that they probably won’t seize my treasure hoard” and “hard enough to reach that climate and political-instability refugee waves cannot get there”.
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#55Lol. I know what the comments will be. And the US is one of the top immigrant countries in the world. Always worth reflecting why people choose that when there is greener gras.
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#56Why was this flagged?
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#57Lol. I know what the comments will be. And the US is one of the top immigrant countries in the world. Always worth reflecting why people choose that when there is greener gras.
The US is a top immigrant country because it isn't bombing itself, and there is still the perception that one can go from nothing to something - but that barn door is closing, for sure.
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#58I sometimes wonder whether the political attitudes of some immigrants and their descendants are shaped by negative experiences or family histories from their countries of origin. This might help explain why people with backgrounds in places like South Africa, the Levant, or Eastern Europe often express strong libertarian views or criticize institutions such as the European Union, progressive politics, or European bureaucratic culture.
Many people don’t realize how much European countries have advanced. Poland and Romania, for example, have been among the major beneficiaries of EU integration. At the same time, American tech companies enjoyed relatively easy access to the European market for years, operating with limited regulation, while countries like Russia and China restricted foreign platforms early on and invested heavily in developing their own cloud and digital infrastructures.
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#59The US would be better off every American did attempt to expatriate.
In my own experience, I quickly saw and stared to miss the many strengths of our way of life.
For the curious about which country it was, see my username.
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#60Come to the Netherlands! It’s awesome. And the visa is easy: just put 5k in a business account. Look up Dutch American friendship treaty.
Yes!
If you are coming over, please, please, go to the Netherlands.