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Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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His boss' posts on Truth Social should be in Comic Sans.

Just remember that when the CERN announced they finally could prove the existence of the Higgs boson, they did it using Comic Sans https://blog.scottlogic.com/2012/07/05/the-higgs-boson-comic...

To be honest, in the official papers they did not use it for either CMS or ATLAS.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Butterick on TNR: ( https://practicaltypography.com/times-new-roman-alternatives... ) > When Times New Roman appears in a book, document, or advertisement, it connotes apathy. It says, “I submitted to the font of least resistance.” Times New Roman is not a font choice so much as the absence of a font choice, like the blackness of deep space is not a color. To look at Times New Roman is to gaze into the void. > If you…

People like this makes me want to use Times New Roman more. Maybe not Butterick specifically (the website is fine), but all those people that make a blog and pick a font before even knowing what they even want to write. Most of the time people change the default my web browser has, they make things worse. For a font choice to be any kind of personal expression in my eyes, you first need everything else in place: content, layout, design.

To spite these people I force the use of Arial on the worst offenders. The list is now a couple of thousand websites long.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Butterick on TNR: ( https://practicaltypography.com/times-new-roman-alternatives... ) > When Times New Roman appears in a book, document, or advertisement, it connotes apathy. It says, “I submitted to the font of least resistance.” Times New Roman is not a font choice so much as the absence of a font choice, like the blackness of deep space is not a color. To look at Times New Roman is to gaze into the void. > If you…

People like this makes me want to use Times New Roman more. Maybe not Butterick specifically (the website is fine), but all those people that make a blog and pick a font before even knowing what they even want to write. Most of the time people change the default my web browser has, they make things worse. For a font choice to be any kind of personal expression in my eyes, you first need everything else in place: cont…

But you're not spiting anyone, they don't even know about this, just wasting your time compiling a list of a thousand websites

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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People like this makes me want to use Times New Roman more. Maybe not Butterick specifically (the website is fine), but all those people that make a blog and pick a font before even knowing what they even want to write. Most of the time people change the default my web browser has, they make things worse. For a font choice to be any kind of personal expression in my eyes, you first need everything else in place: cont…

But you're not spiting anyone, they don't even know about this, just wasting your time compiling a list of a thousand websites

Oh, I could have picked a other font. I just get a smug feeling when forcing these websites to use Arial. The main reason for using another font on these web pages is that their own choices are worse than not changing it. So that list of thousands of web pages is to make their web pages legible and more usable, not just to be a prick.

I picked Arial so that I could tell the web pages apart from those who had the good taste to leave my web browsers standard font alone. I don't mind arial.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

#55
Calibri font has "I" and "l" the same, according to Wikipedia. A better font should avoid characters being too similar (such as "I" and "l" and "1").

Another issue is due to the font size and font metrics, how much space it will take up on the page, to be small enough to avoid wasting paper and ink but also not too small to read.

So, there are multiple issues in choosing the fonts; however, Times New Roman and Calibri are not the only two possible choices.

Maybe the government should make up their own (hopefully public domain) font, which would be suitable for their purposes (and avoiding needing proprietary fonts), and use that instead.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

#57

I'm mostly surprised it wasn't Fraktur. How pitiful do you have to be as Secretary of State to get into minutiae about fonts, anyway?

What's wrong with Fraktur?

Fraktur is often associated with the German far right, because it's a mostly German thing that nationalists can hang on to.

Funnily enough, it was Goebbels who banned it and required everyone to change to Latin scripts.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Butterick on TNR: ( https://practicaltypography.com/times-new-roman-alternatives... ) > When Times New Roman appears in a book, document, or advertisement, it connotes apathy. It says, “I submitted to the font of least resistance.” Times New Roman is not a font choice so much as the absence of a font choice, like the blackness of deep space is not a color. To look at Times New Roman is to gaze into the void. > If you…

The Times New Roman commentary could have been true back when it was written, but now Calibri is the default for Microsoft Word, and has been for a long while (almost 20 years). So choosing Calibri is the path of least resistance.

So now Times New Roman not only looks uninspired and bland, but also dated? Yeah, I would say that's a good fit...

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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The article says it's better than Times New Roman because it's easier to read for those with disabilities - so of course the government needs to make things worse for them. Wonder if someone could sue over these kinds of changes that are being deliberately made to be less accessible.

Is that even true? The article is really vague on the type of disability and basically just claims that serifs are harder to read. Generally sans-serif is advisable for small sizes, although I assume the main things are large open counters, tall x-height and low stroke contrast. I’ve often read that dyslexics favor strongly distinctive characters and “grounded”, bottom-heavy letterforms. I feel like serifs actually s…

The wiki explicitly mension the typical sans disadvantage: "One potential source of confusion in Calibri is a visible homoglyph, a pair of easily confused characters: the lowercase letter L and the uppercase letter i (l and I) of the Latin script are effectively indistinguishable."

So while I prefer Calibri as TNR has been the default for longer and hence is more boring to me, I can understand people might prefer a serif font for readability.

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