I sense a great disturbance in the force - millions of teens muttering "for fuck's sake" and tossing their phones onto the sofa.
Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban
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#52This is great. Even if it doesn’t actually keep teens off, it sends the message that social media is bad for you. Just like smoking and drinking.
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#53I don't necessarily think this as it is will "work" but I'm all for someone at least trying to do something. Yes, there are a bunch of externalities and potential second order effects that don't sit well with me but, at this stage, I'd rather some attempt at trying to regulate than throwing up hands and saying its all too hard. Also, dont buy the this is the slippery slope to more authoritarianism etc. as an argument…
If you just want to try something that doesn't work, why not legislate touching grass every morning without all the downsides of a dumb blanket ban?
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#54any kid who cant figure out how to slide right by a government hack is a looser, and while we should feel a little bad for both of them, presumambly someone will take pity and fix there phones up , and let them know that there is sex and everything on the net
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing has changed for my 15 year old either. It’s business as usual today for her. She says only one of her friends has been challenged by a platform so far, and that was by Snapchat. That friend got another 14 year old friend to pass the facial age detection check on her behalf.
> pass the facial age detection Are you kidding me? So the answer is let's let some random vendors used by said corporation scan her face ? This feels like using DNA sequencing to confirm you're tall enough to ride the rollercoaster.
For some reason (and this is one reason people think there's a conspiracy), that is the "preferred" form of age verification. It certainly saves the government from having to do IT.
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#56There is a pattern of government using moral panics to exert greater control. Australia and New Zealand seem to be used as a testbed for projects which are introduced elsewhere.
The UK government wishes to police social media more heavily, and has been using internet porn and illegal immigration (two unrelated issues) to push through digital ID. The exact same mentality - controversy, panic, dubious solution...
In this case, we have a genuine issue and a dubious solution.
The answer: meet in person. Talk to people offline.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I am definitely in favor of the US causing itself more damage, its actually quite sickening to see people spruiking this legislation. First of all, Australia has proven nothing, kids are stepping politely over this barrier without issue. Second we are already hearing from disabled teens losing their only social lifeline. Congratulations, you have isolated and disenfranchised a bunch of kids.
The changes are not even 12 hours old for most of Australia and people are declaring failure. Far out.
For people in an industry that is _built_ on A/B testing, HN sure expects governments to get everything perfect first go with no edge cases or externalities doesn’t it!
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#59Its crazy how the AusGov has just tried to turn this into some kind of nationalistic celebration. Passing laws isolating children isnt to be celebrated by lighting up national monuments.
Isolating children from what? If anything, this will make they spend more time with their friends and family
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#60Its crazy how the AusGov has just tried to turn this into some kind of nationalistic celebration. Passing laws isolating children isnt to be celebrated by lighting up national monuments.
Isolating children from what? If anything, this will make they spend more time with their friends and family
What about the kids who are bullied and isolated at school? What about those who have an abusive family?