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Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

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Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

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I hacked together a HDMI e-ink monitor https://barwap.com/projects/okmonitor/

I wanted an e-ink screen I could just plug-in. Versatile, big and cheap. Connection is via a VGA or HDMI. Works like an appliance. All automated. Wireless.

Specifications: 1024x768, 6fps, lag: ~1.2s, Connection: VGA or HDMI Specifications Single Screen: 1024x768, 5fps, lag: ~1.2s, Connection: VGA or HDMI

Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

#52
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I don't really want an e-ink "monitor" as that does not really play into the advantages of an e-ink display. By the time the e-ink display is uprated enough to act as a monitor It feels like a lot of the advantages of e-ink are lost and the display server does not really downrate enough to utilize e-ink's strength. But an e-ink "terminal" would be nice, not an actual tty but something more like a tablet form factor t…

Funnily you're describing https://usetrmnl.com/ which also happens to be pretty hacker friendly.

Until now, I had resisted the urge to order one

But now that they have a bigger version, with controls and a clear case...

I'm not sure that I should be thanking you for making me spend money!

Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

#53

Dasung 253 is a 25.3 inch eink display. https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-25-3-e-ink-monitor-p... I bought it two years ago for over $1800, and I have to say, it was worth every single dollar. I can read on it, work on it, (kind of) watch youtube videos on it, play (some) RTS game on it. And mine only had 33hz refresh rate, not the latest 60hz.

Does it support linux based systems?

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Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

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incredible, isn't it, that no single usable e-paper device is being sold. like no Mac with e-ink, no Surface with e-ink, no ASUS with e-ink, even though this is the best thing an operator can do to his tired eyes.

I'd wager that the whole modus operandi for desktop environments is not made with e-ink in mind. E-ink fits in a situation where only a few updates are ever required, and completely breaks down for anything requiring higher framerates. The market might just not be big enough to warrant creating a product.

CWM or any light WM could perfectly fit. Once you either use terminal tools or ancient Motif applications (or QT with no animations at all), everything looks usable. Forget Gnome 4 or Plasma with all the bells and wistles on.

Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

incredible, isn't it, that no single usable e-paper device is being sold. like no Mac with e-ink, no Surface with e-ink, no ASUS with e-ink, even though this is the best thing an operator can do to his tired eyes.

I'd wager that the whole modus operandi for desktop environments is not made with e-ink in mind. E-ink fits in a situation where only a few updates are ever required, and completely breaks down for anything requiring higher framerates. The market might just not be big enough to warrant creating a product.

> the whole modus operandi for desktop environments is not made with e-ink in mind

It used-to be in the DOS and terminal days, and it wouldn't take much to get us back there. Shut off all the eye-candy transition effects. Make your web browser, PDF viewer, etc., always scroll a full page at a time, instead of scrolling 1mm when you click on the button or use the mouse wheel. Just those few changes and you'll have something that'll work pretty well.

Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

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I backed this project: https://www.crowdsupply.com/modos-tech/modos-paper-monitor on Crowd Supply to see how close they can come to a "monitor" experience with an e-paper display.

Ooh, crowdsupply looks interesting. This is my first time seeing it.

CrowdSupply is great - I ran a successful project through them. And I would definitely recommend anyone doing some hardware taking a look.

There are a couple of things to be aware of - everything is shipped to the US and then distributed from there (using Mouser US).

From the project point of view this means, depending on where things are manufactured) tariffs can come into play. The terms of shipping to mouser are delivery duty paid - so it’s the shipper who pays.

For backers it does mean people outside of US can pay quite high shipping costs.

The other thing from a project point of view is that mouser is a distributor. They want a reasonable (around 40%) margin on the things they ship.

With CrowdSupply there are two sets of orders:

Orders placed during the campaign - the project gets the full money (minus fees etc…)

Orders placed after the campaign and any additional bulk orders - the project gets the wholesale price.

I wrote a fairly detailed write up of it here: https://www.atomic14.com/2025/07/21/crowd-funding-retro

Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

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I’d really like a Linux laptop with an e-ink screen. I’m well aware of the downsides. It seems Android tablet with a keyboard or Windows laptop with double screen exist but to live with the limitations of such a screen, nothing would top having full control of the OS interface.

incredible, isn't it, that no single usable e-paper device is being sold. like no Mac with e-ink, no Surface with e-ink, no ASUS with e-ink, even though this is the best thing an operator can do to his tired eyes.

Whilst they're certainly not Apple, you can walk into most retailers, and out with one of Boox's offerings.

(Just be aware they're open GPL violators.)

Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

#58

Dasung 253 is a 25.3 inch eink display. https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-25-3-e-ink-monitor-p... I bought it two years ago for over $1800, and I have to say, it was worth every single dollar. I can read on it, work on it, (kind of) watch youtube videos on it, play (some) RTS game on it. And mine only had 33hz refresh rate, not the latest 60hz.

Does it support linux based systems?

the 60hz version says it doesn't

> Only Support Mac, Windows > Linux is not supported

Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

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I've tried this setup (and a different setup using a capture card) with a BOOX Note Max but the input latency is just too high to be usable, even for simple cli work. Are the dedicated eink monitors (like Dasung) better in this regard?

Yes they are significantly better. But no battery so no portability.

Re: Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux

#60
post #26

I don't really want an e-ink "monitor" as that does not really play into the advantages of an e-ink display. By the time the e-ink display is uprated enough to act as a monitor It feels like a lot of the advantages of e-ink are lost and the display server does not really downrate enough to utilize e-ink's strength. But an e-ink "terminal" would be nice, not an actual tty but something more like a tablet form factor t…

> not an actual tty

Hold up, this could be good

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