ICE flavored Nuremberg when this is over.
That would require Axis-flavored tribunals over the US. And that isn't going to happen.
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Out of curiosity, do you know if these events get taught in history lessons in American schools? I'm by no means throwing shade here - I'm a Brit and our history lessons barely mentioned the unending list of atrocities Britain committed in the name of empire.
Yepper. Trail of Tears, German/Japanese internment are all primary education topics. Now interestingly, I don't think Bush has made it into the history books yet, but I don't have kids, so can't verify current day education materials. What I find interesting is the bits we leave out. Like we touch on the Banana Republics, but the annex of Hawaii and how that was skulduggerously done is completely skimmed over.
> German/Japanese internment are all primary education topics.
There wasn't any German internment. White people got a pass.
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#53These people are not enemy combatants, or spies, or even foreign nationals. Uusually thery are immigrants in the process of getting citizenship. There is no argument for torturing these people. This is just psychotic cruelty.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
All republics are democracies. Not all democracies are republics. Some people seem to get confused about this and think that "democracy" means "direct democracy" only, and not any of the various sorts of indirect democracy.
To make this point crystal clear, “correcting” someone with “ackshually the US isn’t a democracy” is something poli sci departments break their freshmen of every single year. The colloquial, broad sense of “democracy” is also how political scientists employ the term in most contexts. That is: the people who study this for a living are entirely OK with that usage. If they didn’t use that sense of the word they’d need…
> To make this point crystal clear, “correcting” someone with “ackshually the US isn’t a democracy” is ...
it's not a democracy, when a large part of the population is barred from voting, and / or if your idea of a vote is giving power to legal persons more than to natural persons during the voting process.
but fine, let me rephrase, the US is not more a democracy than China, North Korea, Russia, or any other clown state that says "wE aRe dEmoCraCy". Having large swathes of your mostly illiterate and poverty-stricken population so badly brainwashed that they fly their flag in their personal LinkedIn Profile, or pride themselves as "patriots" with a red cap, does not make the country "democratic".
To put it even more bluntly: the way the US sees its population in Appalachia is how the rest of the world views the US.
On the upside it all makes great entertainment (see Sacha Baron Cohen's "Who is America" which first and foremost is a documentary and only secondly is Satire).
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
- Roosevelt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_America... - van buren https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Cass - Wilson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans - Bush https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp And i must forget a lot of others, but I think you get the gist. "Great again" indeed.
Out of curiosity, do you know if these events get taught in history lessons in American schools? I'm by no means throwing shade here - I'm a Brit and our history lessons barely mentioned the unending list of atrocities Britain committed in the name of empire.
TDLR: Very little.
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#56ICE flavored Nuremberg when this is over.
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#57ICE flavored Nuremberg when this is over.
I've been calling them the N2 trials. The evidence this administration willingly shares makes one shudder to think what they are not sharing.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yepper. Trail of Tears, German/Japanese internment are all primary education topics. Now interestingly, I don't think Bush has made it into the history books yet, but I don't have kids, so can't verify current day education materials. What I find interesting is the bits we leave out. Like we touch on the Banana Republics, but the annex of Hawaii and how that was skulduggerously done is completely skimmed over.
> German/Japanese internment are all primary education topics. There wasn't any German internment. White people got a pass.
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#59ICE flavored Nuremberg when this is over.
I've been calling them the N2 trials. The evidence this administration willingly shares makes one shudder to think what they are not sharing.
A thought that haunts me: a few hundred Venezuelan migrants were released from CECOT, but are there any deportees still stuck in there that we simply don’t know about? People without loved ones or a paper trail serving a hellish life sentence for a misdemeanor? If they exist, will anyone ever be able to get them out?
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yepper. Trail of Tears, German/Japanese internment are all primary education topics. Now interestingly, I don't think Bush has made it into the history books yet, but I don't have kids, so can't verify current day education materials. What I find interesting is the bits we leave out. Like we touch on the Banana Republics, but the annex of Hawaii and how that was skulduggerously done is completely skimmed over.
> German/Japanese internment are all primary education topics. There wasn't any German internment. White people got a pass.
Remind me what the German equivalent of Japan's attack Pearl Harbor was on US soil.