No jack, meaning I'll have to fight a hacked together Bluetooth implementation. Its an interesting project, but not for me.
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#52No jack, meaning I'll have to fight a hacked together Bluetooth implementation. Its an interesting project, but not for me.
It uses Bluez for bluetooth connections. Or maybe that's what you meant ;) Bluetooth is a hack anyway.
I have no confidence in it working constantly on a new OS like this.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
All phones end up reliant on proprietary blobs. Not that I disagree in principle, but we have to be realistic. Hardware manufacturers, telcoms and to some degree regulators all do not like user freedom with regards to phones.
But AOSP is open source while Sailfish OS is not. Also "proprietary blobs" != "proprietary blobs" (there's varying level of obfuscation/debug info).
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#54>User configurable physical Privacy Switch - turn off you microphone, bluetooth, Android apps, or whatever you wish sus I don't think it is a good idea to call this a "privacy switch", obviously it works in software and can't be trusted.
my lenovo laptop has a physical privacy switch for the camera... it's literally a piece of plastic that covers the lens, no way to bypass that (without physical access). I feel safe.
If it can be enabled in software, it can be disabled in software, and I don't trust software.
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#56>User configurable physical Privacy Switch - turn off you microphone, bluetooth, Android apps, or whatever you wish sus I don't think it is a good idea to call this a "privacy switch", obviously it works in software and can't be trusted.
yep... my lenovo laptop has a physical privacy switch for the camera... it's literally a piece of plastic that covers the lens, no way to bypass that (without physical access). I feel safe. If it can be enabled in software, it can be disabled in software, and I don't trust software.
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#57Show the operating system. That is the core of what people will be using - they need to know what it looks like. How easy it is. The phone looks like all other phones.
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#58Hard no on giving Jolla a cent. Jolla rug-pulled [1] people who crowd-funded [2] their tablet in 2014. Jolla used the crowd-funding campaign to butter up VCs for their next funding round [3] and then decided the Asian LLC handling the crowdfunding would go bankrupt, leaving backers with no tablets and most with no refund. [4] The real kicker was that the tablets were ALREADY manufactured by their ODM, Jolla just neve…
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#59Add a keyboard, and you would have piqued my interest. I dont understand how ex-Nokia devs could have built a phone like the N900 and then just walked away from it for 15 years
Most people aren't willing to sacrifice half their screen real estate 100% of the time, or deal with a significantly thicker phone, just to get a physical keyboard. The market for that is very small.
Don't forget that SailfishOS is ultimately Linux (and not like Android) - it even comes with the zypper package manager that lets you install apps and update the OS using the terminal. Part of the fun of using SailfishOS is doing familiar Linux systems managements and general operations the terminal, which any Linux nerd would love. And Linux nerds make up a huge userbase of this OS.
I mean, look at the link OP pasted, they're straight up calling it a "Linux phone", it's clear who their audience is. And don't tell me majority of Linux users would NOT prefer to have a keyboard.
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#60Hard no on giving Jolla a cent. Jolla rug-pulled [1] people who crowd-funded [2] their tablet in 2014. Jolla used the crowd-funding campaign to butter up VCs for their next funding round [3] and then decided the Asian LLC handling the crowdfunding would go bankrupt, leaving backers with no tablets and most with no refund. [4] The real kicker was that the tablets were ALREADY manufactured by their ODM, Jolla just neve…