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Didn't know about codeberg and can't even access it... Is it https://codeberg.org/ ??
That is correct. It is down quite a bit. https://status.codeberg.org/status/codeberg
Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
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Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#52IMHO, the main advantage of github is that it is an ecosystem. This is a well-thought-out Swiss knife: a pioneering (but no longer new) PR system, convenient issues, as well as a well-formed CI system with many developed actions and free runners. In addition, it is best to use code navigation simply in a web browser. You write code, and almost everything works effortlessly. Having a sponsorship system is also great,…
having used gerrit 10 years ago there's nothing about github's PRs that I like more, today.
> code navigation simply in a web browser
this is nice indeed, true.
> You write code, and almost everything works effortlessly.
if only. GHA are a hot mess because somehow we've landed in a local minimum of pretend-YAML-but-actually-shell-js-jinja-python and they have a smaller or bigger outage every other week, for years now.
> why developers like it so much
most everything else is much worse in at least one area and the most important thing it's what everyone uses. no one got fired for using github.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#53I have sympathy for some of the GitHub complaints. otoh just went to try to signup for Codeberg and it's down ... 95% uptime over the last 2 weeks? https://status.codeberg.org/status/codeberg
What? It says it's up for 98.56% for the last 2 weeks.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#54IMHO, the main advantage of github is that it is an ecosystem. This is a well-thought-out Swiss knife: a pioneering (but no longer new) PR system, convenient issues, as well as a well-formed CI system with many developed actions and free runners. In addition, it is best to use code navigation simply in a web browser. You write code, and almost everything works effortlessly. Having a sponsorship system is also great,…
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#55Last week the reason for the move was MS tools being used by the baddies. Today AI is the baddie du jour. To use a great quote "either do or don't, but I got places to be".
https://ziglang.org/news/migrating-from-github-to-codeberg/
> Putting aside GitHub’s relationship with ICE
That was the extent of it. Six words.
Furthermore, this submission is an independent post, not from Zig, reporting on the original and adding more context.
> To use a great quote "either do or don't, but I got places to be".
What exactly is your complaint? The move had already been completed at the time of the original Zig post. They did do it.
There’s no incongruence between posts. The nature of your discontent or how it could possibly affect you isn’t clear in the slightest.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#56The people at Zig should use proper CI tools and not something that a big service provider is offering as an afterthought.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
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Try exposing a paswordless SSH server to outside to see what happens. It'll be tried immediately, non-stop. Now, all the servers I run has no public SSH ports, anymore. This is also why I don't expose home-servers to internet. I don't want that chaos at my doorstep.
this can be fixed by just using random ssh port all my services are always exposed for convenience but never on a standard port (except http)
After managing a fleet for a long time, I'd never do that. Tailscale or any other VPN is mandatory for me to be able to access "login" ports.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
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> Seriously though the big problem to solve will be squatters, when there are three logical places for a module to be hosted I suspect Codeberg, which is focused on free software, will frown on them. They already disallow mirroring.
> They already disallow mirroring. In which direction? (I'd check myself but they're down...). That doesn't sound very open to me.
From their FAQ:
> Why can't I mirror repositories from other code-hosting websites?
> Mirrors that pull content from other code hosting services were problematic for Codeberg. They ended up consuming a vast amount of resources (traffic, disk space) over time, as users that were experimenting with Codeberg would not delete those mirrors when leaving.
> A detailed explanation can be found in this blog post.[1]
[1]: https://blog.codeberg.org/mirror-repos-easily-created-consum...
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#59IMHO, the main advantage of github is that it is an ecosystem. This is a well-thought-out Swiss knife: a pioneering (but no longer new) PR system, convenient issues, as well as a well-formed CI system with many developed actions and free runners. In addition, it is best to use code navigation simply in a web browser. You write code, and almost everything works effortlessly. Having a sponsorship system is also great,…
That's not a Victorinox you're looking at, it's a cheap poorly made enshittified clone using a decades old playbook (e-e-e).
The focus on "Sponsorship buttons" and feature instead of fixing is just a waste of my time.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
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Try exposing a paswordless SSH server to outside to see what happens. It'll be tried immediately, non-stop. Now, all the servers I run has no public SSH ports, anymore. This is also why I don't expose home-servers to internet. I don't want that chaos at my doorstep.
Yeah, I have been thinking about hosting a small internet facing service on my home server, but I’m just not willing to take the risk. I’d do it on a separate internet connection, but not on my main one.