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X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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If they do a new display/digitizer for an X230T which uses the newer Wacom styluses, I'd probably not be able to resist.

As it is, I panic-purchased a second Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 when I was worried that there wouldn't be a Book 4 Pro 360 (they are now on a Book 5 Pro 360)....

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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What's a good alternative to 2010 Thinkpad X200 series, with potential for coreboot support?

Can't recommend starlabs enough, fully replaceable everything, coreboot, modern specs, Linux compat, firmware over lvfs

Thanks for the rec, didn't know they had moved on from Clevo designs to their own board design made by Quanta/Compal/Wistrom etc.

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hello, as always: imho (!) i own a x200s ... bought it in march of 2009 =?> so its approaching 17 years ... it was a really great device with one of the best keyboards for a small notebook. and i still use it multiple times a week for example to browse hackernews, reddit, ... or watch some video etc. buuuut: its nearly 17 years old ... everything is starting to wear - i wouldn't invest a dime into it right now. what…

What's a good alternative to 2010 Thinkpad X200 series, with potential for coreboot support?

If you're interested in something of an even higher degree of robustness and are fine with an ARM device, check out the MNT Reform Next: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/mnt-reform-next

I really wish we could get an MNT device with upstream support, if not an x86 processor. Having used the Pocket Reform, I think about it quite often. It's almost perfect.... but the ARM chip and all the warts that come with SoC crap basically is the one single thing that keeps me from using one.

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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hello, as always: imho (!) i own a x200s ... bought it in march of 2009 =?> so its approaching 17 years ... it was a really great device with one of the best keyboards for a small notebook. and i still use it multiple times a week for example to browse hackernews, reddit, ... or watch some video etc. buuuut: its nearly 17 years old ... everything is starting to wear - i wouldn't invest a dime into it right now. what…

I also have an x200s that I got new in 2009. I've replaced the keyboard, battery (multiple times), palm rest, upper shell, and probably a few other things I'm forgetting about. I haven't put new parts on it for a few years, but as recent as ~2020 they were very easy to get and affordable. My little x200s is a dedicated HaikuOS machine now and I hope it keeps running for another two decades!

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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anybody know if this motherboard will fit the x220 or x230, or just the x200/201? i've cornered the market on x220 and x230, i must have two dozen

Won't fit, the X200/201 use a different chassis design to the X220/230.

Dissapointing. The X220 is built well and has a great keyboard. Any idea why the focus on the X200/201 instead of the X220/230?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's a good alternative to 2010 Thinkpad X200 series, with potential for coreboot support?

If you're interested in something of an even higher degree of robustness and are fine with an ARM device, check out the MNT Reform Next: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/mnt-reform-next I really wish we could get an MNT device with upstream support, if not an x86 processor. Having used the Pocket Reform, I think about it quite often. It's almost perfect.... but the ARM chip and all the warts that come with SoC crap ba…

Open Arm devices sadly live in the shadow of closed Apple Mac Mini perf and battery life, and Asahi is stuck at 2022 M2 SoC. Some older Arm Chromebooks have mainline Linux support and also run coreboot. Qualcomm and MediaTek/Nvidia are "maybe next year" Linux and closed firmware.

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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The x200 was a really neat machine. They run great with linux mint - I have mine running as a home assistant server for our house since my raspberry pi died with flash card corruption.

I have an x201 and running arch and bare tty as a distraction free vim + C coding experience. Just for fun. I love it for that.

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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The x200 was a really neat machine. They run great with linux mint - I have mine running as a home assistant server for our house since my raspberry pi died with flash card corruption.

I have an x201 and running arch and bare tty as a distraction free vim + C coding experience. Just for fun. I love it for that.

Browser and PDFs are my only daily GUI usage these days. And I could revert to a text browser if not for a lot of sites having horrendous navigation dom or requiring JavaScript.

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Currently $1,299.00 for the Ultra 7 and $1,449.00 for the Ultra 9. I won't say it isn't a fair price, but it is a really hard one. It would be perhaps more interesting to start making ARM or maybe even RISC-V motherboard replacements for some of these beloved chassis.

This is a small shop. Given complexity I'd say the price is a steal. You certainly couldn't make it at that price in the West. Probably 2-10 times more expensive.

Would it help small shops if there were open schematics for laptop motherboards, like OpenCompute does for servers? Coreboot and other open firmware (e.g. EC2) could then target that "open" motherboard, even if the shipped board designs had 10% non-open customization for business differentiation.
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