Your attention is drawn to https://system76.com/
Just from the pictures you can tell it doesn't feel like a MacBook's unibody.
tradeoffs :)
Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
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Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
#52the whole pc laptop industry really is an embarrassment right now. It has been 5 years since the M1 Macbook release, and there is no real equivalent. I'm on a thinkpad x9, which might be the closest I've seen, but the cpu performance just isn't as good.
The HP Zbook Ultra G1A is a contender, but it's also the only contender to your point.
Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
#53One model/configuration will never work because developers are awful, picky customers. You’ll lose 90,000 of your 100,000 with one or more little nitpicks. Probably 50% right off the bat because you chose a keyboard with or without a numpad. Another huge chunk because you chose the wrong screen (Retina resolution? Low resolution? Refresh rate?) Too bad, because I want this. Or at least the version of it I have in my…
Apple / macbooks seem to be doing fine
The blog is premised on the idea that Apple and MacBook are not doing fine.
Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
#54One model/configuration will never work because developers are awful, picky customers. You’ll lose 90,000 of your 100,000 with one or more little nitpicks. Probably 50% right off the bat because you chose a keyboard with or without a numpad. Another huge chunk because you chose the wrong screen (Retina resolution? Low resolution? Refresh rate?) Too bad, because I want this. Or at least the version of it I have in my…
Follow the Framework model. Make the hardware user configurable, maintainable, and upgradable.
Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
#55Honestly if you actually need high end specs then you should just build a PC. "16 core Zen 5 CPU, 40 core RDNA 3.5 GPU. 64GB of LPDDR5X RAM @ 256 GB/s + stunning OLED" - Easily done as a pc build. In a world where you can get this laptop with Linux, there's a new set of trade-offs - - be prepared for a LOT of things not working because the size of the market for extremely expensive configurations with high end CPU +…
> - when closing the lid and walking to the coffee shop will the battery be dead before you finish your coffee? probably
Why probably? Going to sleep on lid close is common enough, it's even the default in all OSes/DEs. If you turn off sleep-on-close and drain the battery, that's on you.
> - is the text in your "stunning oled" going to be rendered correctly in linux? probably not
> - will the wifi chip work in linux? maybe
> - will all the ports work/behave? probably not
These seem like odd things to doubt, when Framework has a perfectly working system for Linux and has been doing it for years. No hardware in their systems is unsupported in Linux.
Notably the critique of Framework in the original blog post does not offer these doubts. They are focused instead on the hardware design and tradeoffs between upgradability and uniform bodies. Those are real tradeoffs and Framework cannot solve them all without abandoning the upgradability part.
Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
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Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
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#58All I want is a thinner Thinkpad X220 but with upped specs and newer ports. Framework-style upgradable motherboard would be nice but optional. The X220 already has a perfect keyboard, a mousing system that doesn't suck (sorry, I've never been happy with a trackpad: they feel too imprecise), a beautiful form factor for a laptop (if I want a laptop, I want it to be 12-14in for easiest portability), it's practically ind…
> I've never been happy with a trackpad: they feel too imprecise
Everything non-Apple is. Apple's trackpad are great and have been for decades. I’ve done professional image editing on the go even with the tiny by today’s standards PowerBook G4s trackpads.
The real tragedy of our industry is that Apple got the basics right a few decades ago but seems determined to make their OS worse for pro user with every release. Yet no one else seems competent or willing to take on the challenge.
Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
#59How much would you pay? Seriously.
There is market demand, but at what price? Hardware is a thin margin product.
Is it a few off the shelf parts placed in a custom CNCed block of aluminium or is it engineered, from the ground up, to suit purpose.
Getting an idea of what would people pay for such a product is step one.
5k?
Re: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
You cannot uninstall Apple Music. That alone is alienating.
You cannot uninstall Music.app indeed. There is one toggle that hides all of Apple Music. It completely hides it, to the point that a link online to the service will error out.
That setting was removed[0].
[0] https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253315335?sortBy=rank