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Re: Tom Stoppard has died

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mock-possum wrote: post #48
delichon wrote: post #40

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I read all of her tweets but I don't know of any anti-trans statements by Rowling. I'd appreciate it if you could point one out. I haven't heard her say that there's anything wrong with being trans, that it's an illness, or that there should be any consequences. I have heard her decry the excesses of some trans activists and allies, particularly in her defense of women-only spaces. That seems to me to be a poor fit f…

I mean it’s pretty straightforward - due to trauma over her past experiences with sexual assault at the hands of cis men, she now sees trans women as a facade used by predatory cis men to sexually assault cis women in bathrooms and locker rooms and other segregated spaces. To her, trans women are really cis men pretending to be women, to make it easier to rape them. There’s kind of no nice way of saying it. It’s text…

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Re: Tom Stoppard has died

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Post by mock-possum »

brunpi wrote: post #51
mock-possum wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean it’s pretty straightforward - due to trauma over her past experiences with sexual assault at the hands of cis men, she now sees trans women as a facade used by predatory cis men to sexually assault cis women in bathrooms and locker rooms and other segregated spaces. To her, trans women are really cis men pretending to be women, to make it easier to rape them. There’s kind of no nice way of saying it. It’s text…

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Who gets to decide whether they are men or not? Is it you?

Why should you know better than them?

Re: Tom Stoppard has died

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Post by [deleted] »

mock-possum wrote: post #48
delichon wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read all of her tweets but I don't know of any anti-trans statements by Rowling. I'd appreciate it if you could point one out. I haven't heard her say that there's anything wrong with being trans, that it's an illness, or that there should be any consequences. I have heard her decry the excesses of some trans activists and allies, particularly in her defense of women-only spaces. That seems to me to be a poor fit f…

I mean it’s pretty straightforward - due to trauma over her past experiences with sexual assault at the hands of cis men, she now sees trans women as a facade used by predatory cis men to sexually assault cis women in bathrooms and locker rooms and other segregated spaces. To her, trans women are really cis men pretending to be women, to make it easier to rape them. There’s kind of no nice way of saying it. It’s text…

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Re: Tom Stoppard has died

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Post by IAmBroom »

erulabs wrote: post #43

Rosencrantz: Is that southerly? Guildenstern: We came from roughly south. Rosencrantz: Which way is that? Guildenstern: In the morning, the sun would be easterly. I think we can assume that. Rosencrantz: That it's morning? Guildenstern: If it is, and the sun is over there for instance, that would be northerly. On the other hand, if it's not morning and the sun is over there, that would still be northerly. To put it a…

The breakout roles for two phenomenal actors.

Roth was the first of the two that I noticed excelling in later projects, but he's only a really great actor.

I can't recall another role where Oldman played clown to a straightman character, but he dissolves into every role so completely...

Re: Tom Stoppard has died

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Post by IAmBroom »

brunpi wrote: post #53
mock-possum wrote: post #52

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Who gets to decide whether they are men or not? Is it you? Why should you know better than them?

It's because they are male, obviously. "Man" is the word we use to describe an adult person who is male.

"We" is an assumed group of people who agree with you.

Re: Tom Stoppard has died

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Post by IAmBroom »

delichon wrote: post #40
atrus wrote: post #38

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While I get you're trying to highlight jkr's anti-trans opinion, both can be true. You can be an asshole, while also being subject to other assholes behavior.

I read all of her tweets but I don't know of any anti-trans statements by Rowling. I'd appreciate it if you could point one out. I haven't heard her say that there's anything wrong with being trans, that it's an illness, or that there should be any consequences. I have heard her decry the excesses of some trans activists and allies, particularly in her defense of women-only spaces. That seems to me to be a poor fit f…

She deals exclusively in dogwhistles.

Using a dogwhistle instead of more well-known hate speech does not mean a person is innocent of bigotry - quite the opposite.

Re: Tom Stoppard has died

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Post by snarf21 »

delichon wrote: post #40
atrus wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I get you're trying to highlight jkr's anti-trans opinion, both can be true. You can be an asshole, while also being subject to other assholes behavior.

I read all of her tweets but I don't know of any anti-trans statements by Rowling. I'd appreciate it if you could point one out. I haven't heard her say that there's anything wrong with being trans, that it's an illness, or that there should be any consequences. I have heard her decry the excesses of some trans activists and allies, particularly in her defense of women-only spaces. That seems to me to be a poor fit f…

This is something she wrote on Twitter... JK Rowling wrote, "There are no trans kids. No child is 'born in the wrong body'. There are only adults like you, prepared to sacrifice the health of minors to bolster your belief in an ideology that ends up wrecking more harm than lobotomies and false memory syndrome combined."

Re: Tom Stoppard has died

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Post by IAmBroom »

bingemaker wrote: post #20
theoptioner wrote: post #9

Wrote a paper on "Shakespeare in Love" (and the original Shakespeare) for lit in highschool. My paper wasn't any good. Really in retrospect or at the time. How he had reinvented it, reinvigorated it. (TIL about banished Rama and Sita from the Bhagavad Gita.) But then I realized it would just be easier to be a critic. Anyways, truly when I lucked into big time screenwriting gigs it was in part because of the time I ha…

Care to elaborate this statement: "TIL about banished Rama and Sita from the Bhagavad Gita"?

Yes, a quick search on the subplot reveals nothing Romeo&Juliet-ish about it.

Nor "Shakespeare in Love"ish.

Re: Tom Stoppard has died

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Post by IAmBroom »

windowshopping wrote: post #21
mstep wrote: post #6

GUIL: Hm? ROS: Yes? GUIL: What? ROS: I thought you... GUIL: No. ROS: Ah.

See now while I love this play I don't find that exchange notable. It's very plain, no? The implication is that one thought the other was going to say something but he wasn't. This exact dialogue takes place in real life regularly. The alternative reading, where an entire exchange cleverly takes place without any substance, seems almost mistaken to me? In context it seems very clear it's "I thought you...[were going…

Yes, it's plain, banal, and even shallow; almost devoid of meaning. And there's genius in that. Who intentionally puts that in a play, without purpose?

It's the antithesis of Chekhov's Gun.

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