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Arthur Conan Doyle explored men’s mental health through Sherlock Holmes

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Re: Arthur Conan Doyle explored men’s mental health through Sherlock Holmes

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divorced dad take

Crazy cat lady take. See I can make useless remarks too.

your whole text above is useless for everyone but you, but I understand you can't contain how you feel about woman

Re: Arthur Conan Doyle explored men’s mental health through Sherlock Holmes

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Your experiences don't validate the rule, either.

Right I forgot we are on HN where we even need a scientific paper on "do women like weak vulnerable or strong confident men?" because nobody ever goes outside.

What are some things that make a man seem vulnerable?

Re: Arthur Conan Doyle explored men’s mental health through Sherlock Holmes

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My personal favorite is The five napoleons. Is someone breaking Napoleonic busts out of some idee fixe? Or is there a motive of crime behind the seemingly delusional behavior?

I suspect that it is purely a literary invention. The core idea of the story is a variant of the "Adventure of the Blue Carbuncle", where a stolen gem was eaten by a goose. For the new plot, Conan Doyle needed some identical copies of something where a jewel could be hidden. These copies need to be destroyed, in order to reveal the jewel. If you decide on using busts in 1904 for an American and British audience, Napoleon is an ideal candidate: notorious, but not venerated. Imagine what a scandal it might have been if busts of the late Queen Victoria or of Abraham Lincoln had been smashed.

Re: Arthur Conan Doyle explored men’s mental health through Sherlock Holmes

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Your experiences don't validate the rule, either.

Right I forgot we are on HN where we even need a scientific paper on "do women like weak vulnerable or strong confident men?" because nobody ever goes outside.

I think you're working too hard to be pithy and are therefore forgetting to actually communicate.

Re: Arthur Conan Doyle explored men’s mental health through Sherlock Holmes

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I guess the question is -> why do we need that guard in the first place? Is this about other people being immature or looking to abuse us? Is this something that generally goes beyond school?

> Is this about other people being immature or looking to abuse us? Is this something that generally goes beyond school? Yes to both. Psychopaths do to everyone what everyone does to out-groups, and we're all someone else's out-group.

I think some concrete examples would be great. I think we need some examples of vulnerability too. Is vulnerability just about showing your actual emotional state? E.g. if you are depressed, anxious or nervous?

Re: Arthur Conan Doyle explored men’s mental health through Sherlock Holmes

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> One of those taboo subjects was male vulnerability and mental health problems. (emphasis is mine) I would argue that still in 2025 this is an extreme and institutionalized taboo.

What do they mean by "vulnerability" here? There is this constant redefinition of words. In mainstream usage, "vulnerability" is not a good thing as it means you are open to problems and can easily be attacked. They presumably mean it in the sense of being "open to your own emotions" or tender. Silly misuse of words for a serious subject.

CVEs basically.

Re: Arthur Conan Doyle explored men’s mental health through Sherlock Holmes

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Drug addiction, loneliness and depression are masculinity instead of mental health problems? What about suicide?

All entirely standard male behaviors. Just look at history for 30 seconds.

You should probably reconsider putting loneliness and depression on a pedestal here.

Re: Arthur Conan Doyle explored men’s mental health through Sherlock Holmes

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Drug addiction, loneliness and depression are masculinity instead of mental health problems? What about suicide?

All entirely standard male behaviors. Just look at history for 30 seconds.

Mental health issues existing in the past does not mean they are not mental health issues. Besides, most men were neither alcoholics, depressed nor lonely.

Loneliness in particular is neither specifically masculine (like, is not at all specifically masculine, neither in history nor now). Nor is there a reason to believe was more or equal amount of it in the past ... when men were part of in person group pretty much regardless of what they were doing.

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I'd be surprised if the people I worked with would think twice before working with someone that's been in psychiatric care, though I can't be sure, because I don't know that any of them did. I know that I wouldn't care. I have friends that stayed in hospitals for psychiatric reasons: they'd be great to work with, I think.

I think in many places there's now enough of critical mass where people are understanding enough and call out anyone who uses that information negatively towards the person.
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