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Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by sodimel »

comezkandirali wrote: post #45

Why don’t they provide a desktop version, similar to software such as GIMP, Inkscape, and others? Do they believe they cannot achieve the desired revenue through crowdfunding? Many projects—most notably Blender—have been highly successful using this approach. It seems unreasonable that an average designer should be required to learn server administration

There is in fact an effort to make a desktop application!

Source (& releases): https://github.com/author-more/penpot-desktop

Topic on penpot forum: https://community.penpot.app/t/penpot-desktop-road-to-1-0/72...

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

#52

Post by Valodim »

wltr wrote: post #48
comezkandirali wrote: post #45

Why don’t they provide a desktop version, similar to software such as GIMP, Inkscape, and others? Do they believe they cannot achieve the desired revenue through crowdfunding? Many projects—most notably Blender—have been highly successful using this approach. It seems unreasonable that an average designer should be required to learn server administration

The closest analogy would be Sketch for macOS, which Figma simply copied at first, and then mostly replaced. I would love to see open source Sketch for open source systems.

You mean which Figma replaced in the market, because they were not limited to a native app?

This is imo a cautionary tale that being a native app primarily is a bad idea in this year.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by boriskourt »

comezkandirali wrote: post #45

Why don’t they provide a desktop version, similar to software such as GIMP, Inkscape, and others? Do they believe they cannot achieve the desired revenue through crowdfunding? Many projects—most notably Blender—have been highly successful using this approach. It seems unreasonable that an average designer should be required to learn server administration

I am not sure what you are really asking here. They have almost 20k commits of frontend and server code [0] over half a decade of development. What would a desktop version of this look like outside of a bundled Tauri/Electron wrapper?

[0]: https://github.com/penpot/penpot

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by boriskourt »

wltr wrote: post #48
comezkandirali wrote: post #45

Why don’t they provide a desktop version, similar to software such as GIMP, Inkscape, and others? Do they believe they cannot achieve the desired revenue through crowdfunding? Many projects—most notably Blender—have been highly successful using this approach. It seems unreasonable that an average designer should be required to learn server administration

The closest analogy would be Sketch for macOS, which Figma simply copied at first, and then mostly replaced. I would love to see open source Sketch for open source systems.

Figma has set an expectation for designers that their projects support multi-user editing by default and are available to clients, teammates and stakeholders without having to install anything. Its hard to go against that kind of productivity in any org.

Penpot provides the same.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by comezkandirali »

sodimel wrote: post #51
comezkandirali wrote: post #45

Why don’t they provide a desktop version, similar to software such as GIMP, Inkscape, and others? Do they believe they cannot achieve the desired revenue through crowdfunding? Many projects—most notably Blender—have been highly successful using this approach. It seems unreasonable that an average designer should be required to learn server administration

There is in fact an effort to make a desktop application! Source (& releases): https://github.com/author-more/penpot-desktop Topic on penpot forum: https://community.penpot.app/t/penpot-desktop-road-to-1-0/72...

I am referring to the convenience of being able to download it from the store and start using it immediately. If it were as effortless as I described, they would reach a much larger number of users

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by boriskourt »

comezkandirali wrote: post #55
sodimel wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is in fact an effort to make a desktop application! Source (& releases): https://github.com/author-more/penpot-desktop Topic on penpot forum: https://community.penpot.app/t/penpot-desktop-road-to-1-0/72...

I am referring to the convenience of being able to download it from the store and start using it immediately. If it were as effortless as I described, they would reach a much larger number of users

https://penpot.app/ you don't have to download it at all :)

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

#57

Post by mnx »

wltr wrote: post #43
tonyhart7 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why we can't have nice things. People see 'unlimited' and will do everything in their power to 'fact-check' it, forcing the producer to place a 'hard cap' and making everyone's life worse.

Don’t use the unlimited lie then, I assume.

"starbucks says there is no limit on how many napkins I can use but they got mad when I took the whole container, liars"

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by comezkandirali »

boriskourt wrote: post #53
comezkandirali wrote: post #45

Why don’t they provide a desktop version, similar to software such as GIMP, Inkscape, and others? Do they believe they cannot achieve the desired revenue through crowdfunding? Many projects—most notably Blender—have been highly successful using this approach. It seems unreasonable that an average designer should be required to learn server administration

I am not sure what you are really asking here. They have almost 20k commits of frontend and server code [0] over half a decade of development. What would a desktop version of this look like outside of a bundled Tauri/Electron wrapper? [0]: https://github.com/penpot/penpot

I am not a software developer. There are many people who think like me...

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

#59

Post by comezkandirali »

boriskourt wrote: post #56
comezkandirali wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am referring to the convenience of being able to download it from the store and start using it immediately. If it were as effortless as I described, they would reach a much larger number of users

https://penpot.app/ you don't have to download it at all :)

Thanks for the information, but I was talking about the advantage of local usability.
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