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Re: Stop Pagination Now

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Post by olliesaunders »

dspillett wrote: post #50
ollysb wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the difference between showing adverts on the next page or adverts further down the same page? They could continue all the way to the bottom of the page. Not that I want to see this but it would be an improvement on paged articles.

> What's the difference between showing adverts on the next page or adverts further down the same page? If you are selling views, that will not wash with the advertiser as you can't reliably tell if the user has scrolled to see the lower adverts (whereas you can easily see if they clicked to see page two). Of course even now your stats are going to over-count already (the ad may stil count as a view if there was an e…

You can use JS to tell how far the page has scrolled and therefore if an advert below the fold has been seen. They already do this on this particular site to only load images as they are needed.

Re: Stop Pagination Now

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Post by noselasd »

bobsy wrote: post #22

As soon as I hit a page with multiple pages I almost always lose interest and immediately leave. I can read down a single page. However when I see an article with 6 pages I am like ... ... sod that. Its not so much the reading. Its the slow page loading which gets me down. If people did pagination right with ajax preloading the next page then I would be happy. 99% of sites do not do this. Instead their sites are slow…

I always look for the "Print" button on such pages - as that shows the content on a single page.

If there's no Print option, I'm not bothering reading the thing, unless it contains info I absolutely need.

Re: Stop Pagination Now

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Post by Zak »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #45

tl; dr: I never realized people may have such different ways of using the Internet. I am surprised by the differences in opinions here; it's kind of like there were two completely different worlds. For example, I have an exactly opposite opinion to ps2000 [0] - single page long articles are the best and I never get lost in them, because, well, every browser has a visual position indicator, also known as "scroll bar".…

90% of people surveyed didn't know it's possible to search within a web page using ctrl+f. Yes, we really are that different.

Cite: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/08/crazy-...

Re: Stop Pagination Now

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Post by darkstalker »

machrider wrote: post #7
mfincham wrote: post #2

Much bigger sin: Boing Boing style "endlessly load more content with Javascript" nonsense. If you're browsing on an (arguably flawed in its implementation) iOS device where page state gets unexpectedly dumped all the time (e.g, tab switching, browser crashes, "multitasking" switches out to an IM client), this style of "pagination" is utterly pants. I end up having to manually edit the URL to advance through content l…

Yeah, I can't stand infinite scroll pages. It becomes impossible to pass a link to someone to a specific section of entries. It generally breaks the back button -- when I click a link and then go back to an infinite scroll page, it has dropped all the dynamic content and has to reload it, and then I have to scroll back to where I was (which may have involved several minutes of scrolling and loading content). Perhaps…

Infinite scroll pages are harder to read with a pointing device withouth a scroll wheel, because the scroll bar jumps randomly when reaching the bottom.

Re: Stop Pagination Now

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Post by sesqu »

Since we're talking about pagination and article lengths, I'd like to take this opportunity to voice my #1 annoyance with unpaginated (and some paginated) articles: the comment section.

I'm perfectly able and quite willing to approximate my progress with reading an article by observing the scroll bar. However, since the advent of social, I find I can rarely trust that information, since the comment section adds an additional multiple to the page length. I often find myself going on a pgdn adventure to figure out the length of the article I've been reading for ten minutes.

Would it really be so awful if the dozen pages of commentary were collapsed behind a "show comments" or "show more comments" button? I want my progress indicator back.

Re: Stop Pagination Now

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Post by pknight »

I'm just as fervent against pagination for the sake of page views and ads, but am I the only one that gets tired from endless scrolling? For long reads I'd rather click to the next page (provided it's preloaded with ajax).

Re: Stop Pagination Now

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Post by d0de »

0r3jq4a0j wrote: post #28
joshuarrrr wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll ignore your general disdain for writers and editors, and point out that not all readers want the same thing. I've pushed for non-paginated articles at my publication, but I admit that I'm not always happy with the result, and we do hear reader complaints about not being able to orient themselves in an article like this: http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/astrophysics/the-cosmolog... (hopefully a wider content-we…

your general disdain for writers and editors It's completely justified. For example: show me where in Poltz's long career as a writer and editor that he secretly squeezed in the years of UX, design, and development experience that qualifies him to make a statement about designing user interfaces. The problem is that editors simply don't believe there is special expertise here or that it requires anything beyond their…

>A good starter article: http://informationarchitects.net/blog/100e2r/

Somewhat ironically, I find that page a little hard to read because the background is so bright. I find reading text on HN much easier with a darker grey background.

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