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Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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Trucks also don't sound like a swarm of angry bees, in fact the all-electric fleet that Amazon uses around here barely sounds like anything at all. Drones would be a huge step backwards for noise pollution.

>Trucks also don't sound like a swarm of angry bees, Heh, you've not heard my neighbors riced out car then.

Amazon vans are electric (Rivian).

Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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I used to work in perception for autonomous aerial vehicles and horizontal wires were the hardest common object to avoid. Traditional stereo won't help you localize them -- wires are thin so even mere detection can be hard, and one portion of a wire looks much like another so feature matching fails resulting in bad or no depth estimates -- and LIDAR sacrifices resolution for weight and power consumption (which both h…

Cables don't move often. Why not simply have a map of all of them? Google sell maps of things like this from street view data.

All cables? Everywhere in the entire country? Accurate to the centimeter level and updated on the hour?

Edit: This was flippant, but the real issues are: any map you get will be incomplete and obsolete almost immediately and cables move and sway in the breeze.

Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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Why would Amazon be in trouble for not knowing the customer has an Ethernet cable stretched across their yard? Even AT&T (Southwestern Bell) buried drops from the pedestal to the house.

Would you say the same thing if a delivery driver drove through some other cables or objects on your property and broke them despite being in a clear and nominally safe area?

Yes

Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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Consider that drones substitute for cars and trucks driving through neighborhoods. For the same payload delivered, ground vehicles cause significantly more property damage, environmental damage, and injuries/deaths.

It's almost as if .. if noise, property damage, enviro damage, injury and death.. are the problems, then we should regulate everything that do those things equally rather than trying to pick winners among various transport modes. But among other things, this would mean holding people responsible for the incredible damage anyone can do with a car and the people will not stand for being told they cannot go vroom vroom.…

"I don't want a noisy neighborhood, but I want to drive my two-ton death trap that you can't see toddlers in front of and I also don't want to see any of my neighbors and also I want any object in the world deliverable within 24 hours."

Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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This comes after the incident where multiple drones crashed into a crane.

Given that prior incident and now this the FAA will likely not be too kind to Amazon. The permission on drone tech is predicated on very strong “see and avoid” technology. Given two pretty bad screw-ups now in as many months the FAA won’t be amused at the failures in the tech on these drones.

Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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Looking at the video, the cable looks ... fragile. Would a large bird landing on it do the same amount of damage? Shouldn't it be thick, armoured cable, attached to a strong wire or something?

Shouldn't drones run by trillion-dollar companies not crash into stuff?

Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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I used to work in perception for autonomous aerial vehicles and horizontal wires were the hardest common object to avoid. Traditional stereo won't help you localize them -- wires are thin so even mere detection can be hard, and one portion of a wire looks much like another so feature matching fails resulting in bad or no depth estimates -- and LIDAR sacrifices resolution for weight and power consumption (which both h…

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Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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Cables don't move often. Why not simply have a map of all of them? Google sell maps of things like this from street view data.

All cables? Everywhere in the entire country? Accurate to the centimeter level and updated on the hour? Edit: This was flippant, but the real issues are: any map you get will be incomplete and obsolete almost immediately and cables move and sway in the breeze.

It doesn’t need to be at the cm level. Giving them a 10m berth should be fine.

Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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I see the downsides. But I also see the delivery vans in my neighborhood that are always double parking and blocking traffic. At least in the air, traffic can be routed in 3d.

There are a lot of solutions to this that involve neither vans nor drones:

1. Properly ticket and reprimand the people breaking traffic laws.

2. Properly reprimand the companies who contract out and run the vans.

3. Build cities that don't necessitate driving everywhere for everything.

4. Buy things in stores.

Re: Amazon faces FAA probe after delivery drone snaps internet cable in Texas

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All cables? Everywhere in the entire country? Accurate to the centimeter level and updated on the hour? Edit: This was flippant, but the real issues are: any map you get will be incomplete and obsolete almost immediately and cables move and sway in the breeze.

It doesn’t need to be at the cm level. Giving them a 10m berth should be fine.

A 10m berth from wires would exclude a substantial proportion of houses in my city.
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