When did a PS5 become a unit of cost? For reference seems to be about 0.002 London buses
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PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#52It's crazy how much RAM has inflated in the last month. I checked the price history of a few DDR5 kits and most have tripled since September .
Why specifically just now? It doesn't seem that much has materially changed very recently.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#53I just checked how much I paid around 12 months ago for Crucial 96GB kit (2x48GB ddr5 5600 so-dimm). Was $224, same kit today I see listed at $592, wild :/
96GB 6400, 380€ 2023-11
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
edit: looks like i had the wrong understanding, thanks to the comments below for explaining ~~~~~helps that Apple's SoC has the RAM on the main die itself. They're probably immune from these price hikes, but a lot of the PC/Windows vendors would, which would only make Apple's position even stronger~~~~
Which Apple product is this? Memory dies and logic dies require entirely different factories to make, so I doubt this SoC exists.
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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#55I used to sell 64kbit (yes, bit) DRAM at $7 in 1982. 1 year later was The memory business is a pure commodity and brutally cyclic. Big profit => build a fab => wait 2 years => oh shit, everyone else did it => dump units at below cost. Repeat.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#56Potentially unpopular take: memory manufacturers have been operating on the margins of profitability for quite a while now. Their products are essentially an indistinguishable commodity. Memory from Samsung or Micron or another manufacturer may have slight differences in overclockability, but that matters little to folks who just want a stable system. Hopefully the shortage leads large purchasers to engage in long-te…
It's a sad trend for "the rest of us" and history in general. The economic boom of the 80's thru the 2010s has been a vast democratization of computation - hardware became more powerful and affordable, and algorithms (at least broadly if not individually) became more efficient. We all had supercomputers in our pockets. This AI movement seems to move things in the opposite direction, in that us plebeians have less and…
One can see it that way, granted. When I zoom all the way out, all of consumer computation has existed as sort of an addendum or ancillary organ to the big customers: government, large corporations, etc. All our beloved consumer tech started out as absurdly high priced niche stuff for them. We've been sold the overflow capacity and binned parts. And that seems to be a more-or-less natural consequence of large purchasers signing large checks and entering predictable contracts. Individual consumers are very price sensitive and fickle by comparison. From that perspective, anything that increases overall capacity should also increase the supply of binned parts and overflow. Which will eventually benefit consumers. Though the intervening market adjustment period may be painful (as we are seeing). Consumers have also benefited greatly from the shrinking of component sizes, as this has had the effect of increasing production capacity with fixed wafer volume.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#57When did a PS5 become a unit of cost? For reference seems to be about 0.002 London buses
I think it's intended as a comparison of cost when building a gaming-capable computer vs. a console of somewhat equivalent power. It used to be a general rule of thumb that you could build a computer of roughly equivalent power for the cost of a game console, or a little more — now the memory costs more than the whole console.
It still is a rule of thumb, you dont need DDR5 for a gaming computer let alone 64gb. A low end am4 cpu + 16gb of DD4 3600 and a decent gpu will beat a ps5 in performance and cost. I dont understand why the headline made this strange comparison.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#58Ouch. Wondering if homelabs will be scavenged for unused RAM as even DDR4 is going up in price :(
I'm personally waiting for the first DDR5 heist. Breaking into a computer store and taking all of the RAM that isn't soldered down.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#59Potentially unpopular take: memory manufacturers have been operating on the margins of profitability for quite a while now. Their products are essentially an indistinguishable commodity. Memory from Samsung or Micron or another manufacturer may have slight differences in overclockability, but that matters little to folks who just want a stable system. Hopefully the shortage leads large purchasers to engage in long-te…
It's a sad trend for "the rest of us" and history in general. The economic boom of the 80's thru the 2010s has been a vast democratization of computation - hardware became more powerful and affordable, and algorithms (at least broadly if not individually) became more efficient. We all had supercomputers in our pockets. This AI movement seems to move things in the opposite direction, in that us plebeians have less and…
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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#60When did a PS5 become a unit of cost? For reference seems to be about 0.002 London buses
I think it's intended as a comparison of cost when building a gaming-capable computer vs. a console of somewhat equivalent power. It used to be a general rule of thumb that you could build a computer of roughly equivalent power for the cost of a game console, or a little more — now the memory costs more than the whole console.
To be fair, if this keeps up, expect the price of a PS5 to skyrocket too.