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Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

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Re: Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

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I don't get it, do we keep the pitchforks out, or do we stash the pitchforks?

You can keep the pitchforks out, but you sadly need to assume Arduino is dead.

Of course, if you weren't already making that assumption when Qualcomm bought them, I don't know what to tell you ...

Re: Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

#52
Anyone have any advice for Arduino replacement? I recently (unknowingly) bought a R4 for some LED projects but knowing now the background, I'm wondering if there's any other alternative for hobby (noob level) micro controller project

Re: Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

#54
What I don't get is how what they do is even legally possible, since the libraries have all F/OSS licenses (MIT, LGPL, GPL, APL), and they don't even own the sole copyright to most things.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45978802

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45985663

Re: Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

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"we have been open-source long before it was fashionable" An abridged timeline: 1960s to 1980s: hobbyist and academic/research computing create thriving public domain software ecosystems (literally the birth of FOSS) 1983: The GNU Project begins 1989: The World Wide Web is created 1991: Linus Torvalds posts the first Linux kernel to USENET 1992: 386BSD is released; Slackware is created 1993: NetBSD is forked; Debian…

> 1989: Tim Berners-Lee invents the World Wide Web I think ideas etc... existed before that, e. g. DARPA and what Alan Kay said. Tim mostly pushed forward a simple protocol that worked. Would be interesting to see how much Tim really generated de-novo, but in general I disagree that he "invented" the world wide web as such. That would seem unfair to many other people - just like Alan Kay once said, you see further by…

> Would be interesting to see how much Tim really generated de-novo, but in general I disagree that he "invented" the world wide web as such.

Eh? What do you mean it would be interesting to see? It's well-documented. Not controversial or hidden.

The HTTP protocol yes. But also the browser/editor app, WorldWideWeb, a web server for it, and the URL scheme, are literal Berners-Lee inventions. HTML may be an SGML language but it's his SGML language.

He's not claiming and nobody is claiming he invented hypertext (he would say Ted Nelson and Alan Kay).

He absolutely invented the fundamentals of the end-to-end web technology as we use it. There was no functioning internet open-hypermedia system before 1990. It's just not in question and it's kind of disingenuous to imply he didn't do much.

(Defining down "invent" in this way is also disingenuous to all inventors, who all do their work in the context of prior art)

Re: Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

#56

Anyone have any advice for Arduino replacement? I recently (unknowingly) bought a R4 for some LED projects but knowing now the background, I'm wondering if there's any other alternative for hobby (noob level) micro controller project

Any ESP32, RP2040 or RP2350 board. The last two use external QSPI flash, so hobby projects only. There are no fuses to set to read protect the firmware.

Re: Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

#57

Anyone have any advice for Arduino replacement? I recently (unknowingly) bought a R4 for some LED projects but knowing now the background, I'm wondering if there's any other alternative for hobby (noob level) micro controller project

nrF52

Re: Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i wrote the article, just go ahead and call me shady and leave out other people at the company. limor will be back online next week after recovering (just had a kid) and you can call her shady too.

But you did not sign the article? I don't understand this. IMO it would have just been easier to simply sign it. (With signing I mean mentioning who specifically wrote a blog entry; and also ideally the time as well.)

? All the adafruit blog posts have author and date listed.

Re: Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

i wrote the article, just go ahead and call me shady and leave out other people at the company. limor will be back online next week after recovering (just had a kid) and you can call her shady too.

But you did not sign the article? I don't understand this. IMO it would have just been easier to simply sign it. (With signing I mean mentioning who specifically wrote a blog entry; and also ideally the time as well.)

i am here now, phillip torrone, and i am holding my 7 day old doing speech to text :)

on linkedin, i think it just says "adafruit" i will learn more and see if i can go in and add it post-post..

how is that shady for ya.

Re: Arduino Terms of Service and Privacy Policy update: setting the record straight

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i wrote the article, just go ahead and call me shady and leave out other people at the company. limor will be back online next week after recovering (just had a kid) and you can call her shady too.

nah, rest of the company gets the shady label too, always has, always will. remember when y'all both started blocking people on twitter for calling out data breaches? hrm, lmao.

those were previous blocks and a couple of banned people assumed it was that, it was not, and since then we mute and document blocks with our social team. regardless, a block from what, 4 years ago, hurt someone that bad, twitter really did hurt people.
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