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Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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What does this ban actually mean? As I understand it, it bans kids from creating an account. They can still doom scroll or waste their life watching reels without a login, don't they? This may push social media back to making their content accessible without an account :)

At least for Twitch that means they can't give money to streamers making a small country's GDP a month.

Should kids be able to buy, say, an athlete's or celebrity's merchandise?

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This doesn’t strike me as “bad”. Seeing the content on Twitch and how parasocial it is, it doesn’t seem healthy for kids under 18 tbh. Like Facebook was the craze when I was exiting highschool, and then it was instagram/snapchat/twitter through college. “Quitting” social media was one of the healthiest adult choices I ever made—comparison is the thief of joy, blah blah blah.

I see what you're saying, but it's a little bit ironic that you write this on a social media platform. Granted, a more niche and focused one with not all of the misgivings of the big platforms, but still.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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I wish they would’ve just banned smartphones and tablets for kids. Same thing how alcohol is banned. Sure parents will still buy them for their kids but at least for a few hours a day they’ll need to leave the devices at home.

The problem is and has always been parenting and not electronical devices.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being a parent myself, the list is not random. The ones in the banned list deserve to be there. I would argue Youtube Kids needs to be banned too.

Discord and Roblox are probably the grooming/edating center of the net right now. The banned ones are just SFW sites where they can see some titties.

Roblox apparently was at risk of being banned but worked with the government to implement extra controls

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Banned for the wrong reason. It's a cam girl site targeted at kids.

Its not a cam girl site targeted at kids. There are thousands of streamers on the platform playing different games. I do agree that the pool / beach section should be closed but honestly its a minority (look at the viewer stats - kids can get porn a lot easier then twitch). Also, that section is not targeted at kids, its targeted at adults in nations with anti porn laws, which gets apparent when you look at who is do…

A shop showing pornography openly or use of various sex fetish toys while selling also bread is still inaccessible to any kid, so thats a pretty weak argument. Worst defines the overall situation.

Given how fucked up the recent generation in thousand little ways and addictions is, and I personally believe predatory 'social media' and overall resulting physical alienation are the largest culprit, these steps are good or at least well-intended. Those corporations are predatory, aimed at weakest and most defenseless (kids), ruining their future lives one bit at a time.

Sure, it should be mostly parents managing their kids well and giving them smart phones or consoles as late as possible in their development curve, but if something is so harmful, some regulation makes sense. 0 sympathies for meta-esque corporations, its us-vs-them due to their endless greed.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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This doesn’t go far enough. Kids under 18 shouldn’t be allowed to use smartphones period.

Why just smartphones? Why not all computers?

At a guess;

* Heads up for desktops, head down for smart phones .. avoid early neck problems.

* No one got run over at a cross walk looking at their desktop.

* Probably (debatable) less screen time over all if smartphones banned, desktops left in.

Not a debate hill I'd choose to die on though, it's all very subjective and varies family to family.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why just smartphones? Why not all computers?

At a guess; * Heads up for desktops, head down for smart phones .. avoid early neck problems. * No one got run over at a cross walk looking at their desktop. * Probably (debatable) less screen time over all if smartphones banned, desktops left in. Not a debate hill I'd choose to die on though, it's all very subjective and varies family to family.

> * Heads up for desktops, head down for smart phones .. avoid early neck problems.

> * No one got run over at a cross walk looking at their desktop.

In all the discussions about these bans and the effects of phones and social media on kids, I've never once seen physical health brought up (at least directly) :P

Fair points, but not exactly what I think concerns people like GP :P

> it's all very subjective and varies family to family.

Whoa get out of here that's far too nuanced for this topic.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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post #14

What does this ban actually mean? As I understand it, it bans kids from creating an account. They can still doom scroll or waste their life watching reels without a login, don't they? This may push social media back to making their content accessible without an account :)

At least for Twitch that means they can't give money to streamers making a small country's GDP a month.

Almost all streamers have some thirdparty "tip/donation" system set up (usually streamelements/streamlabs via paypal or stripe, sometimes also giving some TTS effects on stream) so that's still possible.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Banned for the wrong reason. It's a cam girl site targeted at kids.

Twitch is not a "cam girl site targeted at kids". It's primarily people playing games, and streaming said games.

It's probably fair to say it's both ;-)
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