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Re: Launch HN: Poly (YC S22) – Cursor for Files

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You are correct that, from a security standpoint, your software is no different than any other software I install on my computer, since desktop computers have no sandboxing. But from a privacy standpoint, it could be uniquely concerning. With Google Drive, I choose which files to upload. It doesn't have broad access to everything on my computer. Dropbox, iCloud, and OneDrive are just backup services, so in theory the…

You choose which files to use in Poly, we don't scan your hard drive either. I don't know about the other services, but Dropbox _does_ read your files. https://help.dropbox.com/security/privacy-policy-faq > We may build models that identify keywords and topics from a given document. These models may be trained on your documents and metadata, and power features within Dropbox such as improved search relevance, auto-so…

That's the thing. I'm already tied into GDrive, Dropbox, OneDrive, etc. all which have LLMs hooked up to them in some form or other. I'll gladly just wait until those catch up and I'll avoid the switching costs. You're all using the same LLMs under the hood anyway.

Re: Launch HN: Poly (YC S22) – Cursor for Files

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I assume that someone has been mighty proud about the website. But I am sorry, it is terrible. Loading my "experience" took over a minute. An my "experience" is not even cached, it was loaded from scratch on the second visit.

Also, while it looks visually stunning, it is really not helping much introducing the product. I find it rather confusing, really.

The first thing I noticed - when you searched for "upcycling", all results that you have shown hat the exact match keyword "upcyling" in their filename. If this is just a text grep, then the product is redundant: "everything" exists.

In case you really would get results for "upcycling" based on an internal LLM-based summary of disk content, that would be great - but your live demo does not show that.

Also, later down my "experience" you try to show how user input is handled. But as the "experience" is fixed size and can not be zoomed in, it is impossible to read any of the blurry text.

Again, I understand that this "experience" looks impressive. But it is a complete distraction and does not help at all to introduce your product.

I spent 5 minutes looking at this, one of that looking at a loading spinner like it's 2005 again, and I have no clue what your USP is.

And to be honest: Your HN post here also is not helping. Think "Dropbox + NotebookLM + Perplexity" - what? That makes no sense. It is a complete distraction. Explain what your product/service is, what it's USP is, and what value it provides to me.

Instead after a wall of text you are explaining me that one can select files by clicking on them.

Re: Launch HN: Poly (YC S22) – Cursor for Files

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It feels like an LLM wrapper in search of a problem. Cloud search plus already exists: https://www.glean.com/product/workplace-search-ai

I do not find the idea of bringing my data to your search engine attractive. The data should stay put and you should merely index it.

And since LLMs let you generate things, you also have a feature to do that. But who is going to want to create things -- armed with only a text prompt -- while they are searching? Rarely have I wanted to combine images like in your demo. And on the rare occasion I did -- like today! -- I used a GUI to do it in. I suppose creatives would find this feature more.

Re: Launch HN: Poly (YC S22) – Cursor for Files

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I assume that someone has been mighty proud about the website. But I am sorry, it is terrible. Loading my "experience" took over a minute. An my "experience" is not even cached, it was loaded from scratch on the second visit. Also, while it looks visually stunning, it is really not helping much introducing the product. I find it rather confusing, really. The first thing I noticed - when you searched for "upcycling",…

You really would get results for "upcycling" based on an internal LLM-based summary of disk content!

Re: Launch HN: Poly (YC S22) – Cursor for Files

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post #54

It feels like an LLM wrapper in search of a problem. Cloud search plus already exists: https://www.glean.com/product/workplace-search-ai I do not find the idea of bringing my data to your search engine attractive. The data should stay put and you should merely index it. And since LLMs let you generate things, you also have a feature to do that. But who is going to want to create things -- armed with only a text promp…

We are creating things! You can create reports, summaries, documents, etc. via the agent. And yes we can mass edit your files through prompts. The agent can take both single and batch actions. That's the power of the harness we built for the agent. It actually understands and can take action on your file system.

Re: Launch HN: Poly (YC S22) – Cursor for Files

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post #55

I assume that someone has been mighty proud about the website. But I am sorry, it is terrible. Loading my "experience" took over a minute. An my "experience" is not even cached, it was loaded from scratch on the second visit. Also, while it looks visually stunning, it is really not helping much introducing the product. I find it rather confusing, really. The first thing I noticed - when you searched for "upcycling",…

You really would get results for "upcycling" based on an internal LLM-based summary of disk content!

Then this is what you should point out. In this case the file names in your promo visualization should NOT contain the search keyword.

So if a search for "fashion upcycling" also returns "case_study_on_how_to_turn_PET_into_clothings.docx", then that's a great USP, and that is what you should point out in your pitch and visualization.

This is because in real life most people already fail at finding good search terms. Many people are not even able to come up with a collection of words to put into the google search box. And the word(s) they may choose could be too specific, or not specific enough. So any kind of "unsharp" search is helping those kind of users.

Re: Launch HN: Poly (YC S22) – Cursor for Files

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really would get results for "upcycling" based on an internal LLM-based summary of disk content!

Then this is what you should point out. In this case the file names in your promo visualization should NOT contain the search keyword. So if a search for "fashion upcycling" also returns "case_study_on_how_to_turn_PET_into_clothings.docx", then that's a great USP, and that is what you should point out in your pitch and visualization. This is because in real life most people already fail at finding good search terms.…

I'm not sure what you're referring to. On the landing page animation, out of 8 search results, only 3 have the word "upcycling", and 5 have either "upcycled" or "upcycling". In the segment after that, two files have neither "upcycling" nor "upcycled". What you're referring to seems already to be the case.
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