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Re: Workday to acquire Pipedream

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Re: Workday to acquire Pipedream

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> Workday, Inc. (NASDAQ: WDAY), the enterprise AI platform for managing people, money, and agents, today announced it has entered into a definitive agreement to acquire Pipedream, a leading integration platform for AI agents Pipedream indeed! It blows my mind that every company has decided to call itself an “AI platform” but it blows my mind even more that the stock market apparently believes them when they say it. W…

As someone with no experience with either of those two services, I read that description and had no idea what Workday does. So I thought, maybe their homepage will explain it better. > Manage HR, finance, and all your AI agents. All in one place. > Elevate the potential of your people and boost productivity across your organization with human-AI collaboration. > Turn AI into ROI faster and deliver transformational ou…

There's some marketing advice that customers care about solving their problem and not how your solution works. I think this often gets misapplied to turn simple and comprehensible products into vague blobby messes. The customers don't care how your scooters work, but they know what scooters are. They don't know what "get your daily errands done hassle free" means.

Plus if you describe yourself in very high level terms, then your addressable market is bigger and you can get more money from investors.

Re: Workday to acquire Pipedream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Workday description reads like the resumes one writes when desperate and the job search has expanded into totally unrelated professions.

"managing people, money and agents" yes, that makes total sense, agents are managed exactly the same ways that you manage people or money, I don't see anyth- WHAT AM I READING?!??

"Agents" is a term that usually refers to people working in a customer support role at a company. Anyone using "agent" without qualification to describe autonomous AI is engaging in a perversion of the English language and should be ashamed of themselves.

Re: Workday to acquire Pipedream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"managing people, money and agents" yes, that makes total sense, agents are managed exactly the same ways that you manage people or money, I don't see anyth- WHAT AM I READING?!??

"Agents" is a term that usually refers to people working in a customer support role at a company. Anyone using "agent" without qualification to describe autonomous AI is engaging in a perversion of the English language and should be ashamed of themselves.

You don’t think that words can shift meaning over time?

Re: Workday to acquire Pipedream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Agents" is a term that usually refers to people working in a customer support role at a company. Anyone using "agent" without qualification to describe autonomous AI is engaging in a perversion of the English language and should be ashamed of themselves.

You don’t think that words can shift meaning over time?

They can, but whether they have is something to be determined by observation, not simply assertion.

It's unfortunately commonplace for people using words inconsistently with established usage, or coming up with novel usages that create ambiguity with respect to existing terms, to use "language evolves" as a blanket excuse.

But saying "language evolves" merely describes the process by which the current state of the language emerged, and doesn't actually substantiate any specific claim about what that current state actually is.

The point here is that this novel usage of the term "agent" is in conflict with what actually is the current standard meaning of the term, and actually does inhibit communication with people who aren't immersed in tech jargon.

I've encountered this myself when discussing AI tooling with the team managing a customer service call center, where "agent" is a pervasive term that already refers to human staff.

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