The fact that these drones are only appearing in NATO aligned countries makes it seem pretty obvious to me that it's one of two possibilities. 1) Russian sabre-rattling 2) NATO countries running "secret" drills in public in anticipation of 1) The UFO community is of course running with a third option that doesn't warrant any seriousness.
Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe
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Right, because nothing screams "I love the environment" like replacing one five hour flight with 200 48 hour internal combustion car road trips.
What about trains, though?
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#55I still haven’t seen any specifics on the type of drones spotted at those airports. Is the other side just sending random people with cheap FPV drones? Or are they flying Shaheds around airports? I could take my 6” FPV drone and go buzz the tower at a nearby international airport, if I wanted. It costs less than 500€ for the entire kit and with ELRS and high power analog VTx you can do it from kilometers away and run…
Civilian drones most of the time. It's thought that it's Russian illegal agents doing this. A lot of them locals recruited online. Really cheap ops done by really cheap people, using cheap and deniable gear.
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#56I still haven’t seen any specifics on the type of drones spotted at those airports. Is the other side just sending random people with cheap FPV drones? Or are they flying Shaheds around airports? I could take my 6” FPV drone and go buzz the tower at a nearby international airport, if I wanted. It costs less than 500€ for the entire kit and with ELRS and high power analog VTx you can do it from kilometers away and run…
I heard it’s a mix. Suggestible local people on Telegram are coaxed to launch civilian stuff at a time and place. This clouds the sensor data of the true launches. I don’t know if we’ve seen Shahads since 10 September, but note that Shahads can be ship-launched as well.
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How do you expect to shoot them down? They are small and very quick and disappear shortly after appearing.
And in many cases its simply not legal to start shooting at unidentified drones in an urban environment.
[0]: https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/gesetzgebungsverfahren/DE...
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Right, because nothing screams "I love the environment" like replacing one five hour flight with 200 48 hour internal combustion car road trips.
Those problems have never stopped the environmental movement before, so why would they now. (they could have supported nuclear a couple decades ago and we would be in much better shape environmentally)
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#59Have they been conclusively spotted? With evidence? Sorry I only skimmed the article. Until there is, I’m going to keep believing it’s some sort of mass delusion like UFO sightings. Not because I think some sort of drone attack is particularly unlikely, but because these sorts of mass delusions are evidently very common - like happened in New Jersey.
Since then, coordinated launches of screens of smaller civilian drones. I don’t think we’ll get hard numbers, but I’ve heard that NATO is more interested in ground-detection of GPS and satellite uplink jamming.
So the question now is: how are some civilians coordinating within NATO countries, and how are they getting drones that can jam?
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Civilian drones most of the time. It's thought that it's Russian illegal agents doing this. A lot of them locals recruited online. Really cheap ops done by really cheap people, using cheap and deniable gear.
I have heard about this happening in Russia but not the other way around. Can you please elaborate?
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-cyberespionage-gig-...