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Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe

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Re: Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe

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The fact that these drones are only appearing in NATO aligned countries makes it seem pretty obvious to me that it's one of two possibilities. 1) Russian sabre-rattling 2) NATO countries running "secret" drills in public in anticipation of 1) The UFO community is of course running with a third option that doesn't warrant any seriousness.

I would not rule out China out either. Let’s not forget some of their recent state backed exploits as well as the “weather” balloon that flew over America.

Re: Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe

#52
post #33

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Right, because nothing screams "I love the environment" like replacing one five hour flight with 200 48 hour internal combustion car road trips.

What about trains, though?

People aren't going to do what you want them to do, they're going to do what they want to do, and in the USA, that's almost never trains.

Re: Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe

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Have they been conclusively spotted? With evidence? Sorry I only skimmed the article. Until there is, I’m going to keep believing it’s some sort of mass delusion like UFO sightings. Not because I think some sort of drone attack is particularly unlikely, but because these sorts of mass delusions are evidently very common - like happened in New Jersey.

Re: Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe

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I still haven’t seen any specifics on the type of drones spotted at those airports. Is the other side just sending random people with cheap FPV drones? Or are they flying Shaheds around airports? I could take my 6” FPV drone and go buzz the tower at a nearby international airport, if I wanted. It costs less than 500€ for the entire kit and with ELRS and high power analog VTx you can do it from kilometers away and run…

Civilian drones most of the time. It's thought that it's Russian illegal agents doing this. A lot of them locals recruited online. Really cheap ops done by really cheap people, using cheap and deniable gear.

I have heard about this happening in Russia but not the other way around. Can you please elaborate?

Re: Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe

#56

I still haven’t seen any specifics on the type of drones spotted at those airports. Is the other side just sending random people with cheap FPV drones? Or are they flying Shaheds around airports? I could take my 6” FPV drone and go buzz the tower at a nearby international airport, if I wanted. It costs less than 500€ for the entire kit and with ELRS and high power analog VTx you can do it from kilometers away and run…

I heard it’s a mix. Suggestible local people on Telegram are coaxed to launch civilian stuff at a time and place. This clouds the sensor data of the true launches. I don’t know if we’ve seen Shahads since 10 September, but note that Shahads can be ship-launched as well.

So this is happening in the EU? I only heard about such cases happening in Russia. Where did you read about this?

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#57
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How do you expect to shoot them down? They are small and very quick and disappear shortly after appearing.

And in many cases its simply not legal to start shooting at unidentified drones in an urban environment.

This is not an issue for the Government though. They can change the laws. That takes time and due process of course. But thats what the German government is doing [0]

[0]: https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/gesetzgebungsverfahren/DE...

Re: Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe

#58
post #25

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Right, because nothing screams "I love the environment" like replacing one five hour flight with 200 48 hour internal combustion car road trips.

Those problems have never stopped the environmental movement before, so why would they now. (they could have supported nuclear a couple decades ago and we would be in much better shape environmentally)

The problem with the environmental movement is that it's not about saving the environment, it's about virtue signalling and chasing an internal locus of control over a phenomenon that is very strictly determined by factors outside of anyone's abilty to meaningfully influence.

Re: Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe

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post #53

Have they been conclusively spotted? With evidence? Sorry I only skimmed the article. Until there is, I’m going to keep believing it’s some sort of mass delusion like UFO sightings. Not because I think some sort of drone attack is particularly unlikely, but because these sorts of mass delusions are evidently very common - like happened in New Jersey.

9 September is probably where you want to start. Intentional swarm of military drones into NATO. Shahads shot down, no question about a Russian plan to test reactions along the perimeter.

Since then, coordinated launches of screens of smaller civilian drones. I don’t think we’ll get hard numbers, but I’ve heard that NATO is more interested in ground-detection of GPS and satellite uplink jamming.

So the question now is: how are some civilians coordinating within NATO countries, and how are they getting drones that can jam?

Re: Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Civilian drones most of the time. It's thought that it's Russian illegal agents doing this. A lot of them locals recruited online. Really cheap ops done by really cheap people, using cheap and deniable gear.

I have heard about this happening in Russia but not the other way around. Can you please elaborate?

As of October, Russian efforts via Telegram are associated with the seemingly-spontaneous swarms around places like The Hague.

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-cyberespionage-gig-...

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