Earlier quoted context omitted.
Under a dictatorship it ought to be.
"Killing people I don't like is ok" is not a very nice line of thinking
A fascist dictatorship is not a very nice goverment.
A new documentary about the history of forced psychiatric treatment in Spain
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Re: A new documentary about the history of forced psychiatric treatment in Spain
#52what is this thread
people supporting a totalitarian fascist regime, blaming the victim...
"Shouldn't fight against the regime, violence is bad mmmkay"... "she threw molotov cocktails, she deserved it"...
what is happening, i feel like i'm taking crazy pills
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its not that simple. I do not know about Franco's Spain, but violent rebellion does not usually make things better. Most violent revolutions end up replacing one dictatorship with another.
Even when it's gone really badly, like the Russian revolution, the revolution was a huge improvement. 80% illiteracy. I think revolutions almost always go well because you usually have to be really terrible to cause one to happen.
The Russian Revolution you are probably thinking of is the October Revolution of the Bolsheviks. But the tsar had already been overthrown by the February Revolution earlier that year, and some of the initial steps towards improving Russian literacy like the drafting of an orthography reform were already accomplished under that regime. Russia may well have seen major strides regardless, and the Bolsheviks are widely seen as one of those revolutions that did more harm than good.
Re: A new documentary about the history of forced psychiatric treatment in Spain
#54"Soon, Mariona joined her new friends on "raids": a few of them would block off a street, throw Molotov cocktails, hand out leaflets, and when the police turned up, scatter in every direction." okay she threw molotov cocktails, she was lucky she wasn't imprisoned.
A) She was still a child.
B) She was imprisoned, repeatedly, and tortured, as the article discusses.
C) Is it your opinion that everyone was "lucky" to live in 1968 Spain under Franco. Or just her?
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A) She was still a child. Her parents had full control over her.
B) She was imprisoned, and tortured, as the article discusses.
C) What POV would you prefer?
D) This was Franco's Spain, what do you imagine yourself doing at a time like that?
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Sounds like either someone with very young kids or else someone with a dismissive/naive parenting style. For kids born since the mid-80s “hiding the porn” has been a lot harder than locking magazines in a closet. It’s not a matter of if, but when. And however you feel about porn, it’s infinitely more important to help your kids feel safe talking to you about it than to try and prevent them ever seeing it. Kids who do…
>Sounds like either someone with very young kids or else someone with a dismissive/naive parenting style. Increasingly this is what the tyranny of the majority is in the western world. People who don't have kids, or only limited experience with kids, declaring that parents are neglecting or abusing their children because they don't behave the way the hypothetical ideologically pure parent would. Almost every single o…
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Do you think "My mum was a 17-year-old free spirit - so she was locked up and put in a coma" could perhaps be the words of the person they interviewed? Could this perhaps by why it is written in the first-person? Where in the article does the BBC claim she was an "ordinary free-spirited girl"? What do you believe the purpose of this article is? Do you think it is advancing a policy agenda, in which case which policie…
The BBC has editorial control over their headlines. The wording in the article is unclear and it may not be a mischaracterization. But, assuming that it is, 'someone lied to us and so we put it into our headline' is not a defense that turns bad journalism into good.
It's an obvious quote, unless you think people are going to misunderstand and think that the BBC as a publication is talking about it's mother somehow. Quotes are generally well understood to be the view of the person giving it, not the publication.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Under a dictatorship it ought to be.
"Killing people I don't like is ok" is not a very nice line of thinking
Wow, didn't know that teenager's protesting Franco is actually worse and has a higher body count than... checks notes... the Franco Regime.
Any other insights you'd like to add?
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Damn, my whole country must be guilty of neglect then!
Lol this is the USA. I've been interrogated when a stranger drove past my rather remote property, in the middle of nowhere, and saw that my child was walking about 50 feet "by herself" on her own fucking property(I was actually watching her, just from further away, so I was able to intervene before they called CPS). Welcome to America where you must watch the kid every second until they turn 18, except at the moment…
Free Range Kids organization has been fighting against this, and a number of states have passed laws around it.
Re: A new documentary about the history of forced psychiatric treatment in Spain
#60what is this thread people supporting a totalitarian fascist regime, blaming the victim... "Shouldn't fight against the regime, violence is bad mmmkay"... "she threw molotov cocktails, she deserved it"... what is happening, i feel like i'm taking crazy pills
Kind of on brand for this site these days, tbh. A brand of anti social that believes disruption done for anything but monetary gain deserves extreme punishment, regardless of circumstance.