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It's comparing it to EV charging. I expect part of the point of the linked study is to examine readiness as more people adopt EVs. With the heavy use of direct combustion for home heating in the US, heating wouldn't be hugely interesting in that context. I consume more natural gas for heating each month in the winter than I do for hot water annually.
> It's comparing it to EV charging "Space heating" is also on the same graph, and it's nearly 1-to-1 with water heating. Which seems odd
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Two reasons I decided not to go with tankless: 1. Can’t have recirculation pump to supply hot water instantly throughout the whole house. 2. Significantly higher energy bill compared to heat pump. An additional bonus is the heat pump cools my garage in the summer.
1 sounds like a huge inefficiency?
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#53Interesting but federal tax credits for heat pump water heaters is ending next month [1]. It looks nice though. For people wondering what's up with the "150 gal virtual" capacity, it's actually a 47 gal water heater but it heats water to a really high temperature (if needed) and mixes it with a thermostatic valve to output the desired temperature. For example if cold water was 15 degrees C and you want the hot water…
They must be doing something different to get that much capacity. There’s a bunch of water heaters with mixing valves but they don’t talk about that much capacity. What worries me is, doesn’t higher temperature make your tank rust faster?
Yeah, they put the word 'virtual' in front.
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#54Pretty cool. Reminds me of Impulse. I think there's a big market for home appliances that have more care and attention to detail than we're accustomed to. No one I know is overly satisfied with their water heater.
it's a tankless natural gas heater in our case, heats endlessly so there's no sense of virtual tank capacity.
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#55Interesting but federal tax credits for heat pump water heaters is ending next month [1]. It looks nice though. For people wondering what's up with the "150 gal virtual" capacity, it's actually a 47 gal water heater but it heats water to a really high temperature (if needed) and mixes it with a thermostatic valve to output the desired temperature. For example if cold water was 15 degrees C and you want the hot water…
I had one of these types of water heaters in an old apartment. Thing worked kinda okay-ish? The main issue was that it was electric and if you used the hot water for really any time at all (bath, dishwasher) then it would pop the fuse from current draws and overheating. Likely this was some issue with the water heater and the electrical system of the apartment. Still, really annoying when half way through your bath,…
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#56Not interested until it can also show ads.
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#58The pricing page does not make it clear how much the actual unit costs, just $6500 with installation. Never purchased a water heater, but going to Home Depot, I see traditional options priced $500-$2000. Which says you are putting up a high upfront cost, hoping to recoup on increased efficiency. Which could be worthwhile, but you would have to run some simulations if the price is worthwhile. Seems potentially easier…
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had one of these types of water heaters in an old apartment. Thing worked kinda okay-ish? The main issue was that it was electric and if you used the hot water for really any time at all (bath, dishwasher) then it would pop the fuse from current draws and overheating. Likely this was some issue with the water heater and the electrical system of the apartment. Still, really annoying when half way through your bath,…
Sounds like you're using a totally different type of water heater (tankless) and not a heat pump water heater (which has a tank, so even if the fuse pops, the water won't get cold instantly).
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#60Interesting but federal tax credits for heat pump water heaters is ending next month [1]. It looks nice though. For people wondering what's up with the "150 gal virtual" capacity, it's actually a 47 gal water heater but it heats water to a really high temperature (if needed) and mixes it with a thermostatic valve to output the desired temperature. For example if cold water was 15 degrees C and you want the hot water…
Yeah this sounds disingenuous. I can also see my heater to 70C if I want, that does not increase its size...