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GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT

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Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT

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Post by andai »

nathan_compton wrote: post #24
url00 wrote: post #11

I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.

You can just tell the AI to not be warm and it will remember. My ChatGPT used the phrase "turn it up to eleven" and I told it never to speak in that manner ever again and its been very robotic ever since.

I system-prompted all my LLMs "Don't use cliches or stereotypical language." and they like me a lot less now.

Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT

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Post by barbazoo »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

All the examples of "warmer" generations show that OpenAI's definition of warmer is synonymous with sycophantic , which is a surprise given all the criticism against that particular aspect of ChatGPT. I suspect this approach is a direct response to the backlash against removing 4o.

> I’ve got you, Ron

No you don't.

Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

moi2388 wrote: post #25
url00 wrote: post #11

I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.

Same. If i tell it to choose A or B, I want it to output either “A” or “B”. I don’t want an essay of 10 pages about how this is exactly the right question to ask

10 pages about the question means that the subsequent answer is more likely to be correct. That's why they repeat themselves.

Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT

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Post by vunderba »

url00 wrote: post #11

I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.

And utterly unsurprising given their announcement last month that they were looking at exploring erotica as a possible revenue stream.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpd2qv58yl5o

Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT

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Post by astrange »

microsoftedging wrote: post #48
crazygringo wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just set a global prompt to tell it what kind of tone to take. I did that and it points out flaws in my arguments or data all the time. Plus it no longer uses any cutesy language. I don't feel like I'm talking to an AI "personality", I feel like I'm talking to a computer which has been instructed to be as objective and neutral as possible. It's super-easy to change.

What's your global prompt please? A more firm chatbot would be nice actually

Did noone in this thread read the part of the article about style controls?

Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT

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Post by Tiberium »

url00 wrote: post #11

I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.

Are you aware that you can achieve that by going into Personalization in Settings and choosing one of the presets or just describing how you want the model to answer in natural language?

Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT

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Post by joering2 »

schmeichel wrote: post #4

Gemini 2.5 Pro is still my go to LLM of choice. Haven't used any OpenAI product since it released, and I don't see any reason why I should now.

No matter how I tried, Google AI did not want to help me write appeal brief response to ex-wife lunatic 7-point argument that 3 appellant lawyers quoted between $18,000 and $35,000. The last 3 decades of Google's scars and bruises of never-ending lawsuits and consequences of paying out billions in fines and fees, felt like reasonable hesitation on Google part, comparing to new-kid-on-the-block ChatGPT who did not hesitate and did pretty decent job (ex lost her appeal).

Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT

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Post by tekacs »

url00 wrote: post #11

I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.

That's what the personality selector is for: you can just pick 'Efficient' (formerly Robot) and it does a good job of answering tersely?

https://share.cleanshot.com/9kBDGs7Q

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