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My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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Re: My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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> Journalism is thrash and journalists are happy to lie about anything if they have the smallest amount of plausible deniability. Funny, if you see the NYT lawsuit against OpenAI, they act like they are still doing serious journalism.

Isn't this related? It's exactly decimation of their budgets that lead to the bad quality.

Re: My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about your friends, but as we're on HN, I'm sure others here have friends like mine, who absolutely have conversations about how the low level shit that facilitates our world works.

How do I join yall

In my experience:

1. Start building stuff that is hard to build that requires touching these niche topics. Especially stuff you don't know how to build

2. As you encounter problems, you'll have to scour for solutions (AI doesn't know these things due to lack of training data). In the process you will find people who are also working on these problems. Ask these people well-formed, intelligent questions.

Re: My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By 'talk' I suspect he means discord and by friends he means display names. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I catch myself saying 'talk' when I'm talking about something a friend told me over chat.

How does that distinction matter here?

>> A weeks ago, my friends and I were talking about the inner workings of Zen 5. We were talking about how the CPUID instruction works, and how AMD MSRs are technically editable if you ask the processor nicely.

> As do we all.

I think they interpreted “as do we all” as pointing out humorously that this is an unusual friend group. So, speculation that it might have formed online makes sense, because online spaces can sometimes facilitate that sort of thing.

Re: My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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It’s easier to have very specialized friends of they are geographically far away.

I don't see what distance has to do with it. I had a number of specialized friends in close proximity at university.

Presumably because they all traveled there for a temporary part of their lives. And after university, they presumably scattered to the places where they built their careers and families.

Re: My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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probably doesn't help that 'tech journalists' are some of the worst with very little journalism background.

A lot of mainstream tech journalism seems to be done by people that are just sort of… excited hobbyists or something. Neither techs nor journalists.

Re: My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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> so, to test, one of us took a heavily PBO'd 9700X and changed /proc/cpuinfo to be a "9700X3D" and ran a Passmark run to see if the software would be fooled... The two articles I saw about this both emphasized that the high clock speed (from the PBO) was inconsistent with the name of the CPU that implied it would be lower performance than the 9800X3D. Most of the sites I check regularly have been pretty good about c…

This is all extra confusing (as to why people republished this) because a 9850X3D was already rumored a couple weeks ago as a higher binned 9800X3D, which would actually make sense, as well as a 9950X3D2 with dual X3D CCDs.

Re: My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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A major takeaway from this is that the news media can easily be misled and report false information. Everyone sees this whenever there's a news article in a field they are an expert in, but then they trust all of the other articles in fields they are not.

Re: My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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Journalism is a crucial part for a free world.

Eh. I think the idea of journalism as a career or distinct field is less important with the advent of social media. People are either reliable or they aren't, and "journalist" was never a strong signal. And investigative journalism seems pretty dead in traditionally-reputable outlets; the good investigative journalism seems to be done by independent people and sold to publishers.

Even the people I like/trust at newspapers I prefer to consume via social media without passing through the editor.

Re: My friends and I accidentally faked the Ryzen 7 9700X3D leaks

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Where did they lie? Someone posted some benchmarks. They reported on the appearance of benchmarks that indicate a new chip. Being wrong is not lying.

You missed the "if they have the smallest amount of plausible deniability" part of the original comment.
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