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The R47: A new physical RPN calculator

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Re: The R47: A new physical RPN calculator

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I have an embarrassing question... math has always interested me but by luck and circumstance I have had a pretty successful career without needing anything beyond college Algebra. Can anyone recommend a curriculum that a busy adult may be able to follow in their spare time? I just want to fill in blanks and explore what is possible.

mathacademy.com is pretty awesome IMO. one hint: don't take notes/allow yourself to refer to notes during quizzes and reviews, the point is to be able to recall using just your brain, even if your progress is much slower that way, you'll learn a lot better.

Re: The R47: A new physical RPN calculator

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post #49

I have an embarrassing question... math has always interested me but by luck and circumstance I have had a pretty successful career without needing anything beyond college Algebra. Can anyone recommend a curriculum that a busy adult may be able to follow in their spare time? I just want to fill in blanks and explore what is possible.

I don't think that's embarassing.

I like solving math puzzles, and I'm often realizing that I'm missing something I've forgotten since middle school or high school - some formula that I know exists that would make a problem trivial. I'd like to re-learn that stuff, especially as my kiddo starts advancing in math classes.

Re: The R47: A new physical RPN calculator

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I appreciate the quality of the engineering and design, and that the hardware is open to being tinkered with by means of firmware update. The price seems fair for what is offered, and the device looks like it would be very useful for anyone who doesn't have any computer at hand or readily available. Kudos to the project team!

But it's unlikely that I buy one because (1) I tend to be close to computers most of the time, (2) my favorite "HP calculator" is the HP9000/715 due to its sizeable HIL keyboard, its 21" CRT color screen, and its support for HP-UX, pun intended; and (3) most of the mathematics I need beyond paper, pen and blackboard can best be done in a Python Jupyter Notebook (statistics) or Mathematica (symbolic derivations).

Re: The R47: A new physical RPN calculator

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Honest question but who would need this these days? Would this calculator still be useful for professors/mathematicians/etc or is this more for HP calculator enthusiasts?

I work in industry automation and use for every day calculation mostly my HP 35s, even I also have a HP 50g under my desk and more than a PC on my desk. It's just for me the most easy way to calculate things with current and power for everyday use. And .. even the basic Windows calc app is so slow to start, I already finished until the app started.

I bought a 35s and found the ergonomics not as good as my old, dead 11C. So I bought an antique 15C on eBay, and it sits right by my keyboard all day.

I'll use the built in calc in macOS Spotlight for many things, but plenty of times each day I use the HP. Example: yesterday I calculated an angle in degrees by reading off approximate x, y coordinates from a graph on my screen. Swapping windows to a calculator app, repositioning them to see both at the same time, just too fiddly, and clicking the calc app moves the cursor so I have to remember the numbers as I switch context.. The physical HP in front of me leaves my screen undisturbed. Easy.

Re: The R47: A new physical RPN calculator

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Honest question but who would need this these days? Would this calculator still be useful for professors/mathematicians/etc or is this more for HP calculator enthusiasts?

Good question. I still use an HP42S these days, but it's an app on my phone or desktop not a separate device. Replacing batteries was a big pain on the original.

Re: The R47: A new physical RPN calculator

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I think I will stick with a TI-89. No RPN, but that’s not necessarily a problem. More importantly, it has a CAS (Computer Algebra System). I wonder why CAS aren’t more common on such calculators. The technology exists since decades and it’s great. I know it’s not allowed in some school exams, but calculators already have exam modes.

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Re: The R47: A new physical RPN calculator

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There was a time when I would have salivated over this. But now I can run iPython on my phone, and have numpy, sympi, scipy, astropy and countless other packages. Physical keyboards are great for calculators - much better than virtual keyboards on phones. But the keyboard advantage seems to me most valuable for quick calculations, not elaborate things like this calculator offers. If I'm going to do matrix calculation…

What IDE do you use? this functionality sounds great.

I use Android phones, and there are at least two ways to get iPython going on an Android phone.

The first is Termux, which provides a gnu userspace atop the Android kernel. This app is pretty old, and well-tested. There is an active and helpful Termux community. But it has some downsides: 1) The version of Termux in the Google Play Store is not the preferred and maintained version, although the Play Store version does work. The preferred version is in F-Droid, but the future of F-Droid itself is uncertain in the light of recent Google policy decisions. 2) Termux does not have access to directories such as /proc, /sys etc, which prevents some gnu/Linux utilities from working and 3) The Termux filesystem layout is very non-standard, so unless a program has been packaged explicitly for Termux, installation will probably be messy. I was able to get most, but not all of the Python packages I use frequently, to run within Termux. I could not get astropy to work, for example. Termux has nice usability features like pinch-to-zoom to change the font size. Termux requests a wakelock, and if you grant the wakelock then the OS will not throttle the app when your phone is locked.

The other option is the relatively recently added "terminal" app. terminal runs a plain-vanilla Debian Linux OS within a VM. Its file system is laid out exactly as you would expect, so if you want to get iPython and lots of libraries, you can just run the Anaconda Python installation script, and it will run unmodified with no errors. Nice! You can also install other nice desktop-style apps like VeraCrypt. There are a few downsides: 1) The OS will throttle the app, and occasionally kill the app, when the app is not actively being used interactively. 2) I have found no way to change the tiny font. 3) It's a Google app, so it might disappear for no good reason, as so many Google products do.

Both of these options work especially nicely on a foldable phone, because then the tiny phone keyboard is much less of an issue. A foldable phone plus the terminal app really is a pocket Linux computer.

Re: The R47: A new physical RPN calculator

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I still miss my 15C.

There's a really good emulator for the iPhone! Back when I bought it, it came from HP themselves, but a few years ago they sold it to another company which actually maintains it. They just released a major new version a few weeks ago.

Yes, the new version is really nice now in portrait mode. Nice app. Now if only we could have tactile buttons...
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