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Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Have they? They haven't taken mine.

I've gotten scanned at the airport on entry and for my greencard h1b/greencard applications, I had to go get scanned at a biometrics center. https://www.uscis.gov/forms/filing-guidance/preparing-for-yo...

Yes immigrants but not citizens.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

#52
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Have they? They haven't taken mine.

I've gotten scanned at the airport on entry and for my greencard h1b/greencard applications, I had to go get scanned at a biometrics center. https://www.uscis.gov/forms/filing-guidance/preparing-for-yo...

And is now required for Americans traveling to the EU now anyway.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

#53
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It's weird how many people's perception of this type of behavior is shaped by the person sitting in the White House. EDIT: It's also weird how my comment is being perceived exclusively as criticizing the critics of this administration rather than criticizing the supporters of this overreach. My comment was intentional phrased very generally, if you think it is specifically about you, that reveals something about you.

I don't think it is.

I think it's selective attention plus recency bias.

This drift has started 24 years ago with 9/11 and no president has stopped or slowed it.

People who dislike who's in charge say the same things as always, people who dislike such measures same the same things as always regardless of who's in the white house, etc.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

#54
post #3

It's weird how many people's perception of this type of behavior is shaped by the person sitting in the White House. EDIT: It's also weird how my comment is being perceived exclusively as criticizing the critics of this administration rather than criticizing the supporters of this overreach. My comment was intentional phrased very generally, if you think it is specifically about you, that reveals something about you.

Wouldn't it be weird if that didn't shape their perception? It's not surprising that people are less trusting when an authoritarian is in power.

>Wouldn't it be weird if that didn't shape their perception?

No. I flat out reject the excuse you make on their behalf and consider you lesser than you would be had you not made it.

We're presumably discussing adults, not ten year olds or monkeys. They ought to f-ing act like it.

These people are almost all likely capable of the emotional restraint and logical thinking and sufficient abstract thought to think these things through and decide whether policy or action is good or bad regardless of if it's their guy doing it or their interest being served by it. The fact that they decline to do so is a failing of them. To excuse it only serves to reinforce or validate it and should be ridiculed.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

#55

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At this point, at least a third of the country always thinks an authoritarian is in power.

FWIW, I've believed we've had an authoritarian in power for quite a while now. Obama, Trump, Biden, and Bush have all tried and succeeded in expanding executive power. They've all engaged in extrajudicial killings overseas. Nothing sets me off like seeing people think this behavior from Trump doesn't have shared roots across both parties. Biden kept kids in cages. Obama bombed weddings. Yes, the current admin is acce…

Yes, it has been accelerating a long time. But I worry a bit about toning it down too much by both-sides-ing it. The Dems were no angels, but they most assuredly did not ever try to overturn the counting of the vote for president. They did not relentlessly claim the whole game was rigged. They never openly mocked the citizens who did not vote for them, made policy specifically to spite red states, etc. Or created government web sites like https://www.whitehouse.gov/mysafespace

By both-sides-ing this, it plays into hands of the people who support the current abhorrent behavior by claiming they're not doing anything different than their opponents have done. That is patently false, and we should not accept it.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point, at least a third of the country always thinks an authoritarian is in power.

FWIW, I've believed we've had an authoritarian in power for quite a while now. Obama, Trump, Biden, and Bush have all tried and succeeded in expanding executive power. They've all engaged in extrajudicial killings overseas. Nothing sets me off like seeing people think this behavior from Trump doesn't have shared roots across both parties. Biden kept kids in cages. Obama bombed weddings. Yes, the current admin is acce…

>FWIW, I've believed we've had an authoritarian in power for quite a while now.

Relevant:

https://img.ifunny.co/images/d85bf67967cdc2fd0616343ed6c1004...

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

#57

EU's recently rejected chat control looks like child's play compared to this. These are some Stasi methods that are going to destroy the US if implemented. Europe already went through creating dossier on citizens in the past, the next immediate step is always fascism. Nothing good comes out of fascism, as the history showed.

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Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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This is a particularly incendiary way of putting this information out there. What is collected and stored is a small blood-spot sample from a heel prick on a newborn. This is used to test for various kinds of conditions that affect newborns. This isn't a full DNA genome sequence or even any data at all, just the blood-spot specimen. Law enforcement does not have automatic access to this sample, but individual samples…

> This is a particularly incendiary way of putting this information out there. Was it inaccurate?

It is as accurate as any of the incendiary Pravda propaganda pieces[1] about how the capitalist swine lived. Other posters have helpfully pointed out the specifics of why your particular spin on it is not entirely honest.

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[1] Often mostly factually accurate, but I doubt you'd find much common ground with the particular spin they'd put on describing your daily life.

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