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Palantir Thinks College Might Be a Waste. So It's Hiring High-School Grads

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#51
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_soldiers_in_Cambodia

Visit Phnom Penh (its not pleasant), visit the killing fields and the prisons. There are pictures of the child soldiers that were authorities at prisons, encouraged to report on adults and punish.

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So you get 3-5 years of unpaid labor out of every employee first? Radical man

We pay the interns. Is that not usual where you are?

A lot are unpaid but I admit I haven’t looked around the internship space in quite a while. That’s good they are paid

Re: Palantir Thinks College Might Be a Waste. So It's Hiring High-School Grads

#54

Highly intelligent kids at 18 are ready for the real world. Its a waste of time to make them memorize random subjects

Like how to analyze requirements, how to document their work, or even how to problem-solve during debugging.

One thing I discovered during decades of teaching at university. 18-year olds have little skill planning. Our first-year course had one-week assignments, but one more in-depth two-week assignment. This was at a time when students used computer labs, rather than their own equipment. During the first week of the bigger assignment, the labs were empty. About three days before the due date, the labs started getting busy. The night before the due date, students were waiting all night to get at a computer, and a delegation of students went to the Department Head to demand much bigger labs.

The following year, we used the same bigger assignment, but demanded that the students hand in the work for the first half of the assignment by the end of the first week (the markers were told just to check that it had been handed in, but not to mark it). Due date came along, and the overwhelming part of the class handed in acceptable work on time.

One thing that four years of university, perhaps including a study skills course, teaches you is how to manage multiple due dates with several concurrent projects in various stages of completion.

Re: Palantir Thinks College Might Be a Waste. So It's Hiring High-School Grads

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Highly intelligent kids at 18 are ready for the real world. Its a waste of time to make them memorize random subjects

Couldn't you also argue that all education is a waste because it involves (some) memorizing? If I look back at what I learned during any stage of my life it's never any of what I "memorized", but it's all important stuff.

Re: Palantir Thinks College Might Be a Waste. So It's Hiring High-School Grads

#56

Basic anti-intellectualism framed as if it's something revolutionary, but really for the purposes of finding easily-moldable loyal cogs for the coming corporate-totalitarian society. High schoolers have had one class of "Civics" at best, for which they likely just memorized the answers and don't really get the hard-won ideals at play. College is where students start to mature from having to manage their own independe…

Indeed, this might have been laudable if a lifestyle company that makes CRMs did this, but some sectors and companies are, for lack of a better word, nefarious to society, and some of the most insidiously nefarious are also adept at hiding it. How many on HN/in hacker communities boycott Meta products vs the general population, how many despise OpenAI?

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#57

There really needs to be a trade school for software engineering. Not just a short boot camp, either. A rigorous 4 year degree that focuses on industry relevant skills and hands-on projects. The biggest reason I got my 1st job out of college at Cloudflare was because I worked on a lot of personal projects and self learned Go and got experience with Postgres, Redis, and basic frontend. These things were not, or barely…

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Re: Palantir Thinks College Might Be a Waste. So It's Hiring High-School Grads

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If "memorizing random subjects" is all college is to you, or all learning is to you, then yeah, probably is a waste of time.

Does a computer science major or engineering degree really need history or humanities classes? Sure, it might make more rounded humans but they are completely unnecessary. However, most colleges require these unnecessary classes to get a STEM degree.

a acredited canadian engineering degree requires a technical writing class, law class, and stats.

otherwise, you get to pick one non-engineering course out of the whole degree.

i did a CS degree on top of a mech one, and all i had to do was the math and CS courses.

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