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ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by stronglikedan »

elicash wrote: post #6

The irony of doing this while covering their own faces

That's fine, as long as they aren't making anyone remove face coverings. People are allowed to cover their faces in public places. And we can't tell from this biased article whether they had probable cause to stop anyone that they did.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by keeda »

superkuh wrote: post #4

I wonder how soon till the automated license plate reader cameras everywhere start doing this.

My understanding is that the only thing keeping this from happening is that the data is far more valuable for traffic monitoring than law enforcement. As a trivial example, these cameras can already determine is a vehicle is speeding based on its number plate sightings between any two cameras. They can hence start issuing tickets, no radar or police needed.

However, they've not gone down this path because they are (rightfully) concerned that there would be an instantaneous and severe backlash that could lead to those cameras being banned entirely, which would cripple traffic control.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by jazzyjackson »

dmitrygr wrote: post #30

'Katz v. United States' was quite clear - you have no expectation of privacy in public. Anyone may photograph you and use said photos. Do I like it? No. But that is the current caselaw in USA. "What a person knowingly exposes to the public [...] is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection." - Justice Potter in 'Katz v. United States'

Taking photo is one thing, storing biometrics to compare against without consent is quite another

Illinois has the Biometric Information Privacy Act.

https://www.ilga.gov/Legislation/ILCS/Articles?ActID=3004&Ch...

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by fabian2k »

stronglikedan wrote: post #50
RajT88 wrote: post #29

I think Family guy had a gag about this... https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/family-guy-skin-color-chart

that has nothing to do with this

Of course it has. They're checking people that look "foreign".

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by _yb2s »

Don’t fall for the lie that this is at all about illegal immigration- that is just an excuse for what has become state sponsored KKK style racial terrorism operating completely outside the law. Videos all over the Internet show them violently attacking and terrorizing hispanic looking people with no concern for if they are citizens or not. At the Wilder raid in Idaho they were shooting children with rubber bullets, and zip tying them to watch as they brutally beat their (mostly US citizen) parents in front of them. At the same time you have the administration actively encouraging white immigration from South Africa, while firing all federal immigration judges that were still willing to hear valid asylum claims from brown skinned people.

I want my country, freedom, and civil rights back.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by jimmywetnips »

visekr wrote: post #15

lol - I made something to do the same to ICE. Stores each ICE agent as a visual embedding and creates a database of all sighted agents. https://www.realtimefascism.com/ice-sight

thanks awesome. thank you for making this.

Can you go into any detail on what technologies you used? Is there enough differentiating data in their attire to actually match agents? None of them are showing their faces so I wonder how many false positives would occur

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by gdulli »

Cornbilly wrote: post #33
varispeed wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder why people downvote. Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. State responsibilities are being offloaded to multinational corporations, de facto private policing is around the corner, surveillance (digital ID tracking your movements and what you talk about, chat controls and whatnot). It's creeping in and people pretend it's not happening.

People downvote because an oligarchy controlled by big tech is their idea of a wet dream. Half of the user base of HN is “founders” excited at the idea that morals, values, and laws will no longer matter.

Temporarily embarrassed founders.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by burkaman »

barbazoo wrote: post #25

Wow this is going downhill fast. I don't have access to the article but I'm assuming this is what Palantir is all about right? Or are we not quite there yet, is this the CBP face scanning they have at border crossings too?

It's about this app, they won't tell anyone who developed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Fortify.
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