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Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by aaronax »

elevation wrote: post #40
ectospheno wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why my router isn’t ubiquiti. I like the switches and access points but my router will stay an OpenBSD box.

What do you use for OpenBSD hardware? Is it power hungry? Is it performant? I had a great stint with OpenBSD on an older Pentium 4 Dell tower a few years back. For basic firewall rules, I had line-rate performance on my NICs. But for a home network I'd love to have something more energy efficient.

Search Amazon for "pfsense mini pc". (smile as you think about how this triggers that one pfsense guy!) Intel N100 or N150 processor, passive cooling, typically 5 1000GBASE-T or better ports, RAM and SSD included. Should be able to get one for ~$200.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by kotaKat »

FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #19

FiberStore (fs.com) have offered vendor neutral and reprogrammable SFPs and other modules for years (they're also dramatically less expensive).

And if you shove the wrong (i.e. non-FS) optic in an FS Box you accidentally softlock your account for a week at a time as a punishment :)

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by elevation »

xyst wrote: post #15

Anybody go through the trouble of outfitting their entire home/condo with fiber? Probably overkill for residential but I am also thinking it might need to be shrouded in EMT conduit

I ran conduit for fiber to a couple rooms.

Because pre-terminated cable assemblies [0] can be 10% of the cost of a more modular link, I used conduit large enough to pass QSFP28 with ease. May not be possible in every home but I'm happy with the result.

[0]: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116804914246

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by samhh »

c-hendricks wrote: post #49
carlgreene wrote: post #3

This is not for me as I'm not a professional network engineer, but I do want to say that Ubiquiti has made home networking SO fun for me. Everything truly "Just Works." My setup is definitely more on the prosumer side, but it's been so build out and inspect my network with their tools.

Can someone explain what "just works" when compared to other networking gear? IE I use ASUS and their mesh, and it all "just works". Have a mix of routers over 10 years and they all mesh together.

For a start I wouldn’t trust brands that by default market mesh over wired backhaul.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by beala »

mastax wrote: post #45
beala wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the complaints about Ubiquiti in this thread from a few months ago dissuaded me from investing in their gear: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44746603 I ended up going with TP-Link Omada and have been happy so far (a managed switch and wifi 6 WAPs). I am a bit concerned about their security track record given how bad their soho products are, so I ended up sticking with my opnsense router at the perimeter as…

I made the same conclusions but got burned with Omada. Cheaper, yes, but fewer features and buggier than Unifi (and that’s a pretty low bar). I migrated back to Unifi.

I don't think I've run into any bugs, but there are also entire sections of the controller I haven't explored yet. I have a pretty typical homelab style setup with multiple wifi SSIDs for trusted devices and untrusted devices, and several VLANs to isolate them. I guess it's good to know rumors of Ubiquiti's death have been greatly exaggerated in case my Omada hardware starts acting up.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

zamadatix wrote: post #36
FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #19

FiberStore (fs.com) have offered vendor neutral and reprogrammable SFPs and other modules for years (they're also dramatically less expensive).

> (they're also dramatically less expensive) It depends, but for typical networking I'd say Ubiquti is actually offering better pricing here (outside of 10G LR) - and I'm saying that as someone who has sold 10s of thousands of FS modules to customers. | FS | Ubiquiti -----------+------+----------- Programmer | $369 | $49 10G SR | $25 | $12 ($20) 10G LR | $34 | $59 ($85) 25G SR | $49 | $29 ($49) 25G LR | $74 | $69 ($1…

For high speed home stuff, I usually pick up some old Mellanox infiniband cards and cables. They're usually dirt cheap and insanely quick. Difficult to work with if you do not know what your are doing.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by bobmcnamara »

xyst wrote: post #15

Anybody go through the trouble of outfitting their entire home/condo with fiber? Probably overkill for residential but I am also thinking it might need to be shrouded in EMT conduit

I did a 10 gig backbone between my three switches, and it's awesome. I didn't bother placing conduit - just tacked up preterminated lengths using coax clips and ordered a spare in case one of them ever goes down. I also have Wi-Fi mesh routers on each switch, which provides low speed redundancy until I have time to replace a fiber. I considered doing conduit - mostly I didn't because I don't expect to be in this house for too many more years. I don't know that I would run fiber to many more places - I did place a jumper through the wall for my wife's desktop if we wanted that in the future. But most consumer devices still seem to have rj45s, so I wouldn't want to put down a media converter for each. If this were a new build I might consider placing fiber and only lighting it as needed.

This is the SFP DAS and fiber links in the current place:

workstation - switchUpStairs - switchMainFloor - switchBasement - nas

Edge devices are a mix between 100meg, 1gig, 2.5gig, so anything wired is limited mostly by its own nic or the ISP.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by c-hendricks »

samhh wrote: post #54
c-hendricks wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can someone explain what "just works" when compared to other networking gear? IE I use ASUS and their mesh, and it all "just works". Have a mix of routers over 10 years and they all mesh together.

For a start I wouldn’t trust brands that by default market mesh over wired backhaul.

Because ... ? Reminder my comment was looking for explanations. Is your issue that mesh + Ethernet backhaul is actually WAP + roaming and not mesh?

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by tguvot »

donatj wrote: post #35
jabart wrote: post #30

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I've had great luck with 10gtek modules both with Mikrotik gear, with DACs, and one that is connected to an upstream juniper switch. I'm curious what modules were the most troublesom. * I will note that the 10gb sfp+ modules from 10gtek on a Mikrotik just don't work.

Funnily enough, this 10gtek worked on one of my 3 switches, but I could only establish a gigabit connection. I returned it [1] These 10gtek fiber modules on the other hand have worked flawlessly so far. [2] This Mikrotik module would not establish a 10 gb link with my Thunderbolt dock no matter what I tried. Works fine with my servers though so I swapped it out. I've pretty much resigned myself to just buying the ful…

did you try to disable autonegotiation and force speed ? i think i had to do it a couple of times with copper
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