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YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

TechSquidTV wrote: post #34
INTPenis wrote: post #7

In my circle, piracy is making a comeback. We're tired of having to hunt down streaming services, and be extorted for hundreds of euro a month, just to see ads for their own programs. Streaming was fun for a while, but as always these greedy execs are ruining it.

I pirated for many years until Netflix had everything when I was in high school. Roughly around the time I got a job I stopped pirating games and bought everything on Steam. There is still some annoyance with other launchers besides Steam but, I endure. Its been a long time now but probably around when South Park left Netflix, I started pirating again. Now I have a massive Plex server and home lab dedicated to piracy…

> probably around when South Park left Netflix, I started pirating again

Unrelated, but fun example as South Park is probably the only show on TV that also let people watch the entire show (-latest seasons it seems) for free online! https://www.southparkstudios.com/seasons/south-park

Been like that (in many places) for many many years at this point too :)

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by captainkrtek »

The cycle of:

Cable TV

Cable TV with a million add-on packages, eg: “oh you want to watch hockey? Thats extra. Oh you want this channel too? Different add-on”

A couple streaming services

Tons of streaming services with a mess of territorial ownership, eg: Thursday night football on Amazon, other games on different services.

We just took the cable + tons of packages model and instead ended up with a ton of services.

These days I just have HBO, Netflix, and pay for ESPN for Hockey, and even those 3 feel ridiculous. I can see why piracy is easier and more appealings

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by Workaccount2 »

benbristow wrote: post #8
analog8374 wrote: post #3

In a word, way less free. And more commercials. All you pirates with your archives and torrents. You are Luke Skywalker here.

SmartTube on Android TV. Brilliant, makes YouTube usable, Sponsorblock baked in.

I don't understand why you wouldn't just get yt premium. You get the same features and it pays out well. YouTube premium views are like gold nuggets for creators.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

benbristow wrote: post #50
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me pay $0.1 for each episode I watch, make everything available and route to the right entity that should be paid and then offer one cross-platform client that everyone pooled their efforts into. And since we're dreaming, make it a open collaboration with a FOSS client too. I'd predict most of the piracy would again disappear quickly as long as it's better, faster and has virtually everything people wanna watch.…

Grooveshark, that's a name I've not heard in a while... But even Spotify are putting the price up this year. I bet if something like that happened, it'd quickly soar to $0.2 an episode in the next year, then slowly creep up more and more.

> I bet if something like that happened, it'd quickly soar to $0.2 an episode in the next year, then slowly creep up more and more

Yeah probably, until they find the point where more people leave because it's too expensive than they'll earn by raising prices, then they'll oscillate or find a new direction. Isn't that how capitalism is supposed to work?

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by magicalhippo »

cantor_S_drug wrote: post #38
hectdev wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a tool like anything else. I learn SO MUCH from Youtube. Watching someone DIY something where they show all the steps, makes it so accessible. I then learn from them and create some really intricate things from different domains without any formal training. I'm talking car repairs, electrical engineering, woodworking, metal work, gardening, 3d printing. The list goes on and on.

I don't understand, why isn't Youtube social yet. By that I mean why can't I subscribe to other recommendations by creator of the channel Posy or Martijn Doolaard or Sisyphus 55.

In the web version, at the bottom of the channel page, there's a list of which subscribers that creator subscribes to, no?

At least that's how I interpreted that section.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by gorbachev »

captainkrtek wrote: post #53

The cycle of: Cable TV Cable TV with a million add-on packages, eg: “oh you want to watch hockey? Thats extra. Oh you want this channel too? Different add-on” A couple streaming services Tons of streaming services with a mess of territorial ownership, eg: Thursday night football on Amazon, other games on different services. We just took the cable + tons of packages model and instead ended up with a ton of services. T…

I time shift with torrents. Tivo is dead, long live the new Tivo!

Most live sports events come out as torrents 2 - 3 hours after. Sometimes sooner.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by ac29 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #17
INTPenis wrote: post #7

In my circle, piracy is making a comeback. We're tired of having to hunt down streaming services, and be extorted for hundreds of euro a month, just to see ads for their own programs. Streaming was fun for a while, but as always these greedy execs are ruining it.

Just let me buy an MP4 legally for $5 and I will buy every movie.

Hell, I'd be happy to pay full price to have this option.

All my devices run Linux and apparently there is no amount of money that will let me stream paid content above 480p.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by jeffbee »

mouse_ wrote: post #10

I swear to God, I can't go three clicks on YouTube without seeing a recommended video like "BASED Trump OWNS woke moralist!" Every time I see anything like that, I'm always clicking not interested, don't recommend channel, etc. But it doesn't help. I would think it's something to do with my searches, or someone in my household watching this sort of content behind my back, but if you look at the front page of YouTube…

I have to say this tells us more about you than it says about Google. I never see such recommendations. The theories that I would look into if this were happening to me, which I reiterate it certainly is not, would be in the following order: perhaps you've installed an extension that is inserting content into your life; you are using anonymization techniques that mix your identity with that of other people who are interested in such content; you share a household with such people; you watch content that you do not realize is associated with right-wing content.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by benbristow »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #54
benbristow wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SmartTube on Android TV. Brilliant, makes YouTube usable, Sponsorblock baked in.

I don't understand why you wouldn't just get yt premium. You get the same features and it pays out well. YouTube premium views are like gold nuggets for creators.

No Sponsorblock (so doesn't block ads by creators themselves, the cliches like NordVPN/SquareSpace etc. you have to manually skip)

They also keep upping the price every so often. SmartTube is free.

I had YouTube Premium via a VPN subscription then they cracked down on it, sod em! Why do I have to pay more because I'm a Brit than if I were an Indian? Don't bull me on "because I live in a Western country I've got a better salary etc.". If they can afford to provide it to Indians for a lower price then why would it cost them more to provide it to me? Same bandwidth costs. Greed.

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