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Re: You already have a Git server

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Post by jiggawatts »

albert_e wrote: post #14
liveoneggs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

most people think git = github

IT support and cybersecurity teams responsible for blocking and enforcing network access restriction to "github.com" ... blocked a user request to install "git" locally citing the former policy. The organization in question does IT services, software development, and maintenance as their main business.

That’s… special.

Re: You already have a Git server

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Post by watwut »

albert_e wrote: post #14
liveoneggs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

most people think git = github

IT support and cybersecurity teams responsible for blocking and enforcing network access restriction to "github.com" ... blocked a user request to install "git" locally citing the former policy. The organization in question does IT services, software development, and maintenance as their main business.

Sometimes I feel like IT and security people compete on how to make the work least possible.

These guys won.

Re: You already have a Git server

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Post by myaccountonhn »

max_ wrote: post #38

I tried this and it is never as smooth as described. Why is GitHub popular? its not because people are "dumb" as others think. Its because GitHub "Just Works". You don't need obscure tribal knowledge like seba_dos1 suggests [0] or this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45711294 The official Git documentation for example has its own documentation that I failed to get work. (it is vastly different from what…

The cool thing is that once you know how simple it is to self host (I certainly didn't know before, just used github), you learn a skill that you can apply to many different contexts, and understand better what actually goes on in systems you depend on. That's what these "tech should be invisible" people miss, where they tout that you should instead learn SASS solutions where you have zero ownership nor agency, instead of taking the time to learn transferable skills.

Re: You already have a Git server

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Post by zenmac »

jdboyd wrote: post #44
max_ wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having to make a repo bare to not have issues with branches is definitely obscure.

It wasn't obscure before GitHub. Still, I like the online browser, and pr workflow.

Yeah this is the best arguments for GitHub type of web git GUI. Not knowing bare repo seems just like a devs not reading docs. And I'm sorry in this day and age devs needs to keep up and just type git like curl http://...../install.sh type of thing.

However would NEVER trust Github since the MS acquisition. codeberg and https://forgejo.org are perfectly sound FOSS alternative to GitHub and GigLabs nowdays.

Re: You already have a Git server

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Post by seba_dos1 »

have_faith wrote: post #50
seba_dos1 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are basic git concepts like bare repos "obscure tribal knowledge" these days? What do you think ".git" directory is?

The vast majority of developers working with git daily don’t know what a bare repo is, or that it exists at all. It’s not obscure knowledge as such, it’s just never come up for them as something they need.

The vast majority [0] of developers working with git daily have no mental model of git repos and just do a mental equivalent of copy'n'pasting commands and it's enough to let them do their work (until something breaks at least), so it doesn't seem like a particularly good indicator of whether something is obscure or not. There are many obscure things hiding in git, bare repos aren't one of those :)

[0] Source: pulled out of my arse.

Re: You already have a Git server

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Post by blueflow »

max_ wrote: post #38

I tried this and it is never as smooth as described. Why is GitHub popular? its not because people are "dumb" as others think. Its because GitHub "Just Works". You don't need obscure tribal knowledge like seba_dos1 suggests [0] or this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45711294 The official Git documentation for example has its own documentation that I failed to get work. (it is vastly different from what…

> obscure tribal knowledge

The knowledge is neither obscure nor tribal, it is public and accessible. And likely already on your system, in the form of man-pages shipped with your git binaries.

> The problem with software development is that not knowing such "tribal knowledge" is considered incompetence.

Consequently.

Re: You already have a Git server

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Post by croes »

max_ wrote: post #38

I tried this and it is never as smooth as described. Why is GitHub popular? its not because people are "dumb" as others think. Its because GitHub "Just Works". You don't need obscure tribal knowledge like seba_dos1 suggests [0] or this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45711294 The official Git documentation for example has its own documentation that I failed to get work. (it is vastly different from what…

> Technology is best when it is invisible

For normal users. Having this tribal knowledge is basically what makes developer and it’s their job to make technology invisible for others. Someone has to be behind the curtain.

Re: You already have a Git server

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Post by vaylian »

max_ wrote: post #38

I tried this and it is never as smooth as described. Why is GitHub popular? its not because people are "dumb" as others think. Its because GitHub "Just Works". You don't need obscure tribal knowledge like seba_dos1 suggests [0] or this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45711294 The official Git documentation for example has its own documentation that I failed to get work. (it is vastly different from what…

> Its because GitHub "Just Works".

IPv6 still doesn't work with GitHub: https://doesgithubhaveipv6yet.com/

Re: You already have a Git server

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Post by timmg »

There was a brief period when Google Cloud had support for hosting git on a pay-per-use basis. (I think it was called Google Cloud Repositories.) It had a clunky but usable UI.

I really preferred the idea of just paying for what I used -- rather than being on a "freemium" model with GitHub.

But -- as many things with Google -- it was shutdown. Probably because most other people do prefer the freemium model.

I wonder if this kind of thing will come back in style someday, or if we are stuck with freemium/pro "tiers" for everything.

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